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Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:26pm

Uhm 3SP for an unbreedable pet is really not very reasonable.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:50pm

Meh i'm not really sorry to see them go honestly; i mean, the rulings on them and what is okay for them and what isn't has been so wishy-washy for years that I never used them anyway.

Not to mention the fact there are literally thousands of them out there; so they are barely worth anything. I understand why people are frustrated but, to me at least, its not a great loss.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:30pm

I am with Calico ☕ (#25718)! the custom makers make the events!!

I have had a busy year and used any but I really don't want to turn them in for unbreedables... and 5 per breedable is a bit high.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:55pm

I can understand and see the reasoning behind this. I just wish it didn't affect newcomers as much. Holiday custom makers were so great to give away to newbies. Cheap, easily accessible during the holidays... they really were perfect, just not in execution.

I suppose if you made the holiday custom potion items cheaper (such as Magic Soot Potion, Pumpkin Patch Potion, Love Potion #9) in seasonal shops, it would be a good solution to that! They don't have all the stringent rules, which is super nice.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:12pm

Tequila Mockingbird (#64472) - Since it was a design ticket I'm assuming you were talking to Slash..? Since he's no longer here it probably would have been best to message another member of staff that could have helped, such as Kai or myself. I personally can't see any PMs from you on the subject, and while I can't speak for Kai I do know that if she's missed a PM then a bump after a week will usually get her attention very quickly. I really am sorry that the situation hasn't been resolved but if it's not been passed on to an active member of staff then there really is nothing that we could have done to help you

Taena (#66637) - I agree, from both a user and admin standpoint. The rules are too subjective to be fair to anyone, and was one of the reasons that previous admins (not just previous custom admins) had supported the eventual removal of these items too.

Wisp & Lei (#1343) - I'll be honest I hadn't considered it, bronze isn't an often used item so I didn't think there would be much call for it. I'll talk to the others, though, see how they feel about it. We can probably do them for 3 items a-piece if they're okay with the idea ^^

I understand that I'm seen as a biased source, but these items have purposefully not been in circulation in Adventure since I believe 2010 or 2011, and were only in the event shops, and then only obtainable from chance items (such as crackers) definitely last year, if not longer. People are complaining about an item that was phased out of active circulation before I even came into this position, and that I'm just taking that final step that has been on the books since I was still a fresh Green.

In saying that, I'm not in any way suggesting people can't be upset, annoyed, or even angry - it's to be expected, and even a part of me looks at my pile of holiday custom items and think about the dozens of customs I've never bothered making to work with them, and going "well I guess I can't now" XDD It's a natural reaction that I understand and don't begrudge.

I've seen USD commissions mentioned once or twice - these items no longer being functional will not stop people making any customs they have commissioned, and I'm sure most people have the ability to make at least 1 BCC since these items are apparently flooded onto new users as a welcome gift XD;

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:14pm

So, how are we going to be able to afford custom creators now...? Real money? :/

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:34pm

Rocket Grunt Myria (#7163)
There is several custom makers that are available just through medium to hard work. Custom Orbs are for sale for Blue paws, which is easily obtained in adventure. There is also the Token species from the Trash shop, which if you are premium you can trash an unlimited amount of items a day. Neither of these are very difficult to obtain, there is also the holiday custom potion makers that are available every year. The prehistoric portal and Mermaids purse which can be obtained through different means using adventure.

As for the users saying the custom makers made the events, staff is very well aware that the past few holidays have been a little lack luster, and we are working on some new and I personally think very exciting plans to bring some life back to them.

We know that these changes are not going to make everyone happy, change is scary to begin with, and when we are taking away items it is even worse. We just ask for everyone to please be patient, Aywas is entering a new phase of growth that it has not had in a very long time, and to do that we have to shed some of our older baggage. We have a lot of things that need repaired before we can truly push forward, this means a lot of change will be coming as we work on moving ahead.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:58pm

Eve (#2775) - thank you for validating users' feelings. Considering how often the staff response is along the lines of "It's easier for US, so too bad for you", it's gratifying to hear staff say "we understand you're upset, and WHY you're upset, and that's ok, sometimes change really sucks". Sometimes that's all we users need. :)


Kaiyo (#489) "Staff is very well aware that the past few holidays have been a little lack luster, and we are working on some new and I personally think very exciting plans to bring some life back to them"



One thing that would help is better rewards/payout for user submissions. Considering a user can make 5-10 GP - or more, for those very skilled/popular - just for coloring, 5 GP for an edited pet isn't worth the effort for most. At least with a site pet/adventure pet you can also count on getting a copy of the pet for yourself; but 5 GP for an edited unique pet for someone else to own when you could just sell the unique outright for 20, 30+ GP - there's no motivation there to produce at that level. The payout doesn't have to be GP (in fact, I think a lot of people would also like BP), or in currency at all, but the return isn't going to be worth it to most users.


As for the custom makers you mentioned - I've never yet managed to get a prehistoric portal OR a Mermaid's purse. The cost of BP items has gone up and up and up - the amount of time you have to spend adventuring is astronomical. Easily obtained - perhaps - at a very, very slow rate. And even then you need to unlock the zones and master them to get the best possible return. A newbie would be at it for quite a while on their own. Tokens are about all they'd get for some time, depending on their luck at getting better rarity items adventuring to trash.



Though...if custom-makers are 'baggage', I'm not looking forward to a 'new phase of growth', to be honest.



I'm aware the mods may dislike/resent my comments, but I'm reasoning from a user's perspective. One other thought on things in this news post:



It's actually CHEAPER for a user to make nova-level unbreedable customs with silver crumbs than the cracked Nova orb, isn't it? Considering how difficult it is for the average user to acquire SP, the current cost of Flame Orbs/Crystals, and the more ready availablity of silver crystal crumbs, it seems like a useless item to appear to appease demand. I'd imagine OCC/OCO/CCCC/CCCO to have more worth to site users than the Cracked Nova Orb.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:13pm

Calico ☕ (#25718)
We have raised the payments for events, as well as added new tiers with worthwhile rewards. Due to the amount of pets that get accepted for the site events we cannot raise the prices too much, since it is just flooding the site with more unbacked GP. Which is a major issue that we are already trying to battle, BP and GP are not very sought after other than for a handful of items, because there is so much already on site.

The items you are talking about are expensive, however when they were announced it was also said that they were BP sinks, which is why they are so expensive. Any other items is because of what I just mentioned, where BP really has very little worth so it is inflation. I am not saying that is good, just that is why it is. We are wanting to work on the economy but that goes back to my last post that there is a lot of things that need fixed and it is a long process and involves getting rid of a lot of things and re-purposing others.

Certain custom makers are baggage, when they cause more stress for both users and staff or when they help to harm the economy, which the holiday makers did both, and then some.

These decisions were not made lightly, as Eve had mentioned they had been in discussion since Skitty's time, however we chose now as the time to finally do it, before even more got into circulation. We know that not everyone is happy about this, and we are going to be offering other possibilities this holiday season. I can only ask that everyone please just try to hold out and trust us a little bit <3 We're not just yanking things away and cackling off into the distance, we are just doing prep work for things to come.

Posted on: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:19pm

I won't deny that the Cracked Nova Crystal Orb is a little steep - but it's very hard to decide how to price it when FCO and FCC are 2 and 3 GP respectively, and their Nova counterparts 21 and 24 GP XD;

Flame being so cheap is why we've been reluctant to release an unbreedable version since their market value is where we would have priced them - so it's geared more towards unbreedable novas (though again, I do see the point that it's a little hefty for even that).

We'll look into it, but I'm not sure how viable it is to make it too much cheaper seeing as their breedable counterparts are already pretty cheap for the level of edits they offer ^^;