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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.
As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.
However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.
So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.
From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.
I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.
This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.
If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.
ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS
BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.
For the tl;dr crowd:
- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm
- Kat&Luna
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:21am
Honestly I kind of agree with everyone. I find this very fair overall EXCEPT for how it basically take effect immediately, for all the breeding already in queue o~o I don't have an HBC nor have I ever, but that still seems, well, rude to me. A week, give or take, just isn't enough for most people to get predicts done and put in. Especially if someone spent all their GP (and/or BP) to buy an HBC and are splitting the breeding. Now many people have save up a fair size amount of BP to get 1 maaaybe 2 decent predicts done and who knows how long all that will take. And that's all just before/as their breedings are about to be assigned.
I really don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to share my unbiased opinion about this. ;^~^
~CKat
- Kat&Luna
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:21am
Honestly I kind of agree with everyone. I find this very fair overall EXCEPT for how it basically take effect immediately, for all the breeding already in queue o~o I don't have an HBC nor have I ever, but that still seems, well, rude to me. A week, give or take, just isn't enough for most people to get predicts done and put in. Especially if someone spent all their GP (and/or BP) to buy an HBC and are splitting the breeding. Now many people have save up a fair size amount of BP to get 1 maaaybe 2 decent predicts done and who knows how long all that will take. And that's all just before/as their breedings are about to be assigned.
I really don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to share my unbiased opinion about this. ;^~^
~CKat
- Kat&Luna
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:21am
Sorry, double post >.
- Haru
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:23am
This shouldn't have been retroactive... Implemented with the news post date - yes, but bot retroactive. eue
- atherum
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:26am
Kanein (#49712) Not sure, but I think the problem with that would be the sheer volume of customs -- I mean, there's a reason it's backed up as much as it is now. Customs take a long time to create and in this case there'd be a lot of them. It might be possible some users would do discounts or something, but I'm pretty sure that would have to be on a case-by-case basis. That said, if someone was industrious and made a lot of customs they could make a lot of gp off of this.
I mean, to me this isn't a big deal 'cause I don't have a coin and I'm not particularly interested in breeding. But I can see why some users would worry over the devaluing of the coin. Therefore I wonder about ways to bring the value back up -- although that might be what the increased edits were supposed to do, I wasn't entirely clear on that. Another option might be to refund the value of the coin in gp although that could get extremely problematic -- there would have to be a flat rate it would be refunded at and doubtless people would get prickly over that too. People are good at that.
I like the idea of the second metal custom too.
All in all, however, this seems like an excellent change to me. As something of an art community, we have to do right by our artists. And if we want to continue being a community that like, exists, we have to have this change. Therefore you get a thumbs up from me :)
- Haru
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:27am
I've just got my first HBC coin ever only to be greeted with this... Haha, nope.
- atherum
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:30am
Haru (#46917) In the best possible world I'd agree with you. But this isn't the best possible world, and the reality is that cash was draining away =/ We can't have that if we want this community to exist/flourish. /sigh. Hard decisions are hard. I'd have to say it's pretty obvious that no one is happy with this -- even the people who implemented it. I doubt the goal here was to upset people.
- k 2
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:42am
retroactive decisions like this make me very wary of making future site purchases.
- Aria
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:45am
... I'm pretty sure retroactively doing this is a violation of contract laws in the US, where Aywas is based. I'm not saying I don't understand nor am I suggesting anything, but you might want to consider that this action might be illegal and if enough users being affected by the retroactive changes got upset, it might also be actionable.
Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:15am
So like most i'm confused but i have a hbc with a teo and scc pet breeding..so out of this i'll now only be getting one baby, but i'm also allowed to submit one predict for this breeding as well? is that how it goes? or wait to buy and add the new usd item?