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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.
As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.
However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.
So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.
From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.
I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.
This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.
If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.
ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS
BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.
For the tl;dr crowd:
- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm
- Nevara & Blue[H]
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:58pm
Kita & Riri (#3988)
I think 15GP would be a fair cap. It's 10GP less, but it's still a fair price for a person to make predicts. That's 8GP for coloring the predict and 7GP for mixing edits. To me, that sounds very fair. It would also make it worth it for users to even invest in predicts and make it worth the purpose predicts is trying to create as well as make it worth it for an artist to do.
~Blue
- Nabila♥
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:58pm
::happy squeaking:: Well thats pretty fantastic! :) All my HBP breedings were predict based anyways so this doesn't affect me much haha and I am delighted at the idea of getting two babies for a rare breeding! O.O Thank you very much for such a quick clarification to my inquiry! ^________^
- Nevara & Blue[H]
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:02pm
Kita & Riri (#3988)
It's actually not half as expensive. It all depends on what pet you're trying to make, whether or not you have premium and what custom maker you have to make. For me personally I could color my own pets so coloring would be free, or I could get an inexpensive artist to color it (as there are artist who charge as little as 3GP to color things in quality). Then depending on what custom maker I needed, it could cost anywhere from pure GP to 30GP. So, in some cases, for many premium users, if predicts cost 25GP on top of an already expensive coin (they linger usually around 40-60GP) It would be cheaper to just upload customs.
~blue
- Ash
(#90)
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:03pm
*Calico* (#25718)
For full predicts, the amount is the same!
- Kita🦊
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:04pm
Nevara & Blue (#19257)
The artist isn't just mixing edits, they're completely redrawing them. That is worth way more than 7 GP and I highly doubt a lot of artists will be willing to work for that cheap.
You have to do the edits though too. You aren't just getting a recolored pet with HBC you are getting completely redrawn edits onto a different base, which you cannot just commission someone to do for 5 gp and expect it to turn out the same quality as something you've spent 25 gp on. It is at least half as expensive if you want site-quality edits and the artists are charging what they're worth.
- Kita
- Nevara & Blue[H]
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:08pm
Kita & Riri (#3988)
Yes, you're right. It is redrawing edits, so maybe make it 20GP. However, I think making it 25GP would not make it worth it for certain breedings. There are some breedings where the custom makers can be bought for BP, and in those cases it would not be worth it to breed.
~Blue
- Ezreal <3 Z
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:09pm
Wow. I am -not- happy. If things were so bad something should have been done way before this. As it stands, I'm looking at paying the same amount or more for predicts for the HBC that was gifted to me. Granted, I get one more offspring but as things stand, I'm not even sure if I can even get someone to do it for me for that cost/ I am trying to cut my losses rather than getting a net happiness gain.
I will have to rethink if even want to breed things anymore.
- Bones
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:22pm
"Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings... TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings.
Does this mean you'll get two predict babies and one site baby? So three babies in total? (Just seeing if I read that correctly)
Thanks - chu
- Ash
(#90)
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 11:24pm
Gibberoo & Chu (#250)
Correct!
Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:58pm
Frey (#90) Can you clarify if the offspring numbers are the same for FULL predicts (no site baby)?