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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.
As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.
However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.
So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.
From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.
I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.
This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.
If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.
ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS
BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.
For the tl;dr crowd:
- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm
- JAK
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:10pm
AremRae (#3998) Yes, that's how that feature works - keeps the breeding out of the queue until it gets predicts added.
- synicals & pluto
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:12pm
No one's answered my question. "What about married pets? would we be allowed to submit two offspring predicts???". Like...the married orbweavers all managed to get edits too and 3 babies. is that still going to be a thing? will the artist make 2 babies then? or??
- JAK
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:12pm
Kita & Riri (#3988) yes, that's what it'd mean - for common and uncommon breedings you could designate how you want the offspring to be species wise.
- Inu
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:13pm
Frey (#90)
I think Will and Zeph are waiting for an answer from you. o3o
- Sen
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:14pm
I understand the reason this is being done in the way noted here. what if the breeding is grandfathered to produce two offspring, but only one edit. The second offspring is a metal coloration of the first edited offspring, using the parents for markings and palette choices. This way people still get the number of babies they are expecting without having to put out more funds for additional artwork.
Just a thought for what might work for all involved? I agree that in the current scenario, even if the user chooses to cancel the breeding, they will likely take a loss on reselling or trading the coin. That thought does leave us open to doubts as to the certainty of what we are spending our funds on.
Obviously, we are a user base that will continue to support the site we love, and we want it to be around for a good long time, which means developing sustainable models for customs and breedings. Making sure that the users are able to feel that they can trust in the integrity of the site without question is a valuable part of what has made this a home to many of us.
I trust that after a massive fundraiser to help make sure that the site stays solvent and is not a burden, no one is out to hurt the player base. I just hope that any decisions made at what is certainly a stressful time don't end up sending any unintended messages.
- JAK
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:14pm
Okay this part had me a little confused but another thing to keep in mind with this USD fertility potion for HBC is that you would get two 30% edited babies in your breeding (as it would cover the artist being paid $15 for each baby) instead of the previous HBC 15% edited two babies. So there's a win there.
- Ash
(#90)
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:15pm
For cancellations they need to PM me, I can't keep up with comments here well enough.
- Kita🦊
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:15pm
Designating species with that add-on for common/uncommon would be the best, Slash. Thanks so much (and you too, Frey!) for working with the userbase on things like this and trying to make things as painless as possible.
- Kita
- zeph & co
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Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:15pm
Frey (#90), Slash told me to ask you. What's going to occur with our pendants, we'd like them refunded, but as they're splits, we'd like the coin back as well. Can something be done about this? As it's not really fair to ask either party to spend more money in order to get a second offspring.
Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:10pm
More newspost updates. I bolded the newest stuff. And Inu (#45093) unfortunately we are not allowing that.