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Holiday Breeding Coin Changes & Predict Caps

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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.

As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.

However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.

So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.

From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.


I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.

This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.

If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.

ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS

BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.

For the tl;dr crowd:

- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.

Posted by Ash (#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm

Comments: 255


Haru (#46917)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:16pm

Where does it say that? O.o Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818)

Raina (#35959)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:20pm

Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818)

I believe you are misreading. It says the HBC was a good way to breed pets WITHOUT getting a hybrid. HBC has never given new hybrids. (Of course if a hybrid was bred you could get that species back since it was one of the parents.)

Raina (#35959)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:21pm

Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818)

o _o; Ping did not work?

Haru (#46917)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:25pm

Raina (#35959) Pings work the same way as the do in posts. xD

Haru (#46917)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:25pm

Raina (#35959) Forum posts that is. xD

Raina (#35959)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:28pm

Haru (#46917)

Ah okay. Weird. Thank you .

Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818) (Up above)

Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:53pm

Raina (#35959)
So, if I breed two SCCs, say a World Dragon and a TreeKitten, I will get a TreeKitten or a World Dragon, not, say, a Mizu?

Because I would scream if I got a Mizu from an SCC x SCC breeding, even though I ADORE my Mizus.

k 2 (#39579)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 5:08pm

Alright, it's been a night and I'm still very unhappy about how this was handled, but I think I'm able to look at it from a cooler-headed perspective. And what really bugs me here, aside from the personal loss, is the precedent that it sets for future Aywas dealings.

The site's been making a very heavy push this past year towards USD-only items, and while that's understandable from a financial point of view, it also puts a lot more onus on the site to deliver on their promises.

Legally, Aywas is totally in the clear for something like this. We all agreed to the TOS when we joined. But if you expect users to consistently shell out more money, you have to maintain a higher level of trust that they'll be getting what they pay for.

Retroactive decisions are, in the long run, a bad business move for building customer faith in a business. I sincerely hope we don't see that word again; there have been better ways to handle this from the start. Aywas has another consistent pattern lately of sort of ignoring issues until they blow up and the admins are "forced" to take drastic measures. That's really not sustainable in the long run. Act on stuff now, guys. So we don't have to do this again in two months and drive more users away from breeding.

Haru (#46917)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 5:16pm

oeste (#39579) Maybe breeding isn't their forte anymore...

k 2 (#39579)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 5:26pm

That's a valid direction to take the site in, though it's one I'd be personally kind of disappointed in. Breeding is a really expensive portion of Aywas to maintain (though I'd argue it's also one of the site's main draws). If that's the case, though, transparency is still key.