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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.
As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.
However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.
So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.
From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.
I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.
This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.
If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.
ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS
BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.
For the tl;dr crowd:
- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm
- Trellwolf
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 1:37pm
I feel bad for everyone upset over split coins, but if each pair in the queue is only getting one baby it will make the queue move much faster. I'd been wondering why it was so slow recently. I'll take an increase in speed for a decreased number of babies.
- Fannish (FreeFlier)
(#1818)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:40pm
Frey (#90) J.A.K. (#15) odd Question, but can we maybe do a USD auction to apply the old rules to every NON-PREDICT breeding in the queue?
We raised nearly 3x the amount needed for the legal fees/reversals (2.5k + 750 for fighting them all) (The extra reversals WILL be refunded to slash, as that is ILLEGAL for Amazon to hold after the settlement)
Can't we post that if we can hit, say, 16k total for the auctions, that HBC breedings that don't take advantage of the awesome extra pets via predicts will get a second no edit baby like they would originally, paid for by the auction surplus?
- Fannish (FreeFlier)
(#1818)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:41pm
Also, again, CAN we get non-hybrid offspring from breeding silvers together still?
- Haru
(#46917)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:48pm
Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818) It never produced hybrids? O.o You'll get a baby from one of the parents species.
- Kita🦊
(#3988)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 3:35pm
Frey (#90)
I'm guessing you have pings turned off (but I wanted you to see that this was addressed to you).
Do Painted Bottles work with HBC?
If they don't, can they please be added to HBC.
If they do, can that be added to the Breeding Add-ons Compatibility KB article?
(I'm guessing they do because I can't see any reason why they wouldn't, but the KB article says otherwise xD)
- Kita
- AngelTheCentaurQueen
(#7341)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 3:37pm
my question is, will SCC species count as the common/uncommon?
and for common/uncommon if you submit a predict you get two? one predict and one site?
- AngelTheCentaurQueen
(#7341)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 3:40pm
sorry to post again so quick. but a though of mine since there is a good % chance of a second baby on a BC breeding
i think it should be fair to add a % chance of two babies on the HBC as well. even if its only 10%? just to make it a little less unfair for those already sitting in queue
- Haru
(#46917)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 3:54pm
I suggest to do this with every coin that yields more than one baby - this way artists will have less work for more pay as well as the site will save more money.
- Fannish (FreeFlier)
(#1818)
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Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 4:12pm
Haru (#46917) above it mentions that Silvers would get a site hybrid instead of a Silver- SO, wanting confirmation that I didn't completely waste 1.2k gp on my pendant. :D
*twitches*
It makes me- uh, edgy. I got it so I could do twins for my breeding projects, but it's value just tanked hardcore... so, yanno. Twitchy.
Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:13pm
Woof, the retroactive thing is pretty bad, but honestly there's no other way to handle a problem such as this. Aywas really can't continue to eat the costs of coins that cost less than they need to payout to the artists. Disappointing to some I see, but really the only good way to resolve such an issue.
If the change seems upsetting to you, please think of your artists who put in the hard work to make such beautiful custom babies at such a low cost. I see users even nitpicking about raising predict ceilings and I just...come on. Respect your artists. You're not paying them industry standard or anything...