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Holiday Breeding Coin Changes & Predict Caps

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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.

As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.

However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.

So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.

From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.


I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.

This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.

If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.

ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS

BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.

For the tl;dr crowd:

- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.

Posted by Ash (#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm

Comments: 255


Narwhal (#18635)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:36pm

Sorry I accidentally bumped the refresh button and it double posted.

🌊 SeaCrest (#55939)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:36pm

Narwhal (#18635)

My understanding is that if you check the little 'will have predicts' box you don't need to get predicts done by that particular deadline. That's for anyone who wants to forge ahead with the breeding(s) ASAP. At least, that's what I understand from the conversations.

Kita🦊 (#3988)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:36pm

Narwhal (#18635)
If you don't get the predictions done within a week and your breeding is close to being assigned you can check the "has predicts" box and that will take your breeding out of the queue until you can submit the predicts. Once they're submitted you just uncheck that box and your breeding is assigned/completed as normal.

- Kita

JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:37pm

Erithan (#49253) You'll lose your spot in the queue if you cancel the breeding. Just add it back into the breeding when you get it (when it comes out) so you can get two offspring without having to wait longer.

Kita & Riri (#3988) Sure.
Narwhal (#18635) Go to Standing Stones and set your breeding to "Has Predicts" (it's a checkbox option) and that removes it from the queue until you have your predicts ready. I think Frey originally said a week because in the past, before we had that option, we wouldn't know what breedings had predicts and they kept getting assigned.

ChaosAzeroth (#43055)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:37pm

J.A.K. (#15) how about the derby dragon add-on. Is that still valid or not?

Nevara & Blue[H] (#19257)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:39pm

I saw this brought up already, but I didn't see an answer. What are married pets going to get? They were getting 3 pets from a HBC, so are they only going to get two now?

~Blue

Narwhal (#18635)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:40pm

Another question. I have an unidentified embryo attached to my breeding.. What do I do with that?

Hikaru (#15577)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:40pm

How bout raising the kickback from a full predict submitted breeding? You get 3GP right now for everything from LBC to BC... but given the queue times and work/pay involved, perhaps giving a bigger incentive for full-predict breedings would alleviate the pressure on both BC and HBC queues.

Given the cap on predicts is higher now, a small increase in that would be nice too. (Say 5GP instead of 3, doesn't need to be THAT high either though I'd be fine with more.)

JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:40pm

Nevara & Blue (#19257) It was answered -- one site baby, two predicts

Cosmos (#25837)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 10:41pm

Wait a sec. Are you saying that not only will the HBC retroactively affect the number of babies but also, there is no additional offspring for married pairs provided by the site? I can accept the 1 offspring normally thing. Not happy but I can accept it but to make the engagement rings offer no benefit (for people who don't want to or can't make predicts) is really really sucky. I purposely purchased 2 engagement rings specifically for some shared HBC breedings. Even if I were to cancel the breedings, I'd now be out around 60 gp on engagement rings alone. I would have never married those pets if the HBC wasn't affected by the ring.