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Posted by JAK
(#15) on Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:37pm
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:05pm
If I did care about overbreeding, for me, I'd define it as a high number of breedings in a short amount of time with the express intention of selling all the babies for profit. In that regard I suppose more than two breedings a month might raise suspicion for me. But it's all kind of wibbly wobbly and I wouldn't want to see any official rules on this. It's up to the line owners. -nmd
- Hakai & Sapphie
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:06pm
I feel overbreeding is more the fact of how "Common" edits are among the genius. When I first started on Aywas my friend Tea (726) had her melo edits bred out to the point of almost all melos on sight at the time had at least 1 Tea Melo parent. Now its harder to find her edits simply because she's no longer on Aywas.
I feel that if you are breeding out edits to the point they are common for nearly ALL the genius then its overbreeding. If you breed a Pet A for Edit One And owner of Pet A requests you not breed it more then a few times. You shouldn't breed it out to heck and back just so you can have more pets with Edit One as well.
~Hakai
- Harmony
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:06pm
I mean how often is the breeding going on? Do you mean eight times in a day or so then its probably too much and also i think it depends on the rarity of the pets as well...
- Seraiden
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:07pm
Steahl (#39778) I agree, the inbreeding rules make me laugh. Whenever I eventually get an SCC species, I'll never have that rule in it.
The whole "protecting edits" thing doesn't make much sense, either, especially since most are on the same lines and have the same/similar edits, especially for the first gens and such.
I find it funny since you don't get the possible genetic defects like IRL would, I only accept it in sites like Alacrity where it's supposed to be a realistic breeding sim/pet site.
Places like here with fantasy characters where it has no bearing? Just seems silly.
- Ekio
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:07pm
I personally don't think the site should decide what's over-breeding and what's not. I see it as a user decision. Now, to me, it's more a problem about breeding for profit. If someone wants to breed a pet once a month every year because they adore the edits, keep adding breeding add-ons and have a lair full of babies they love, that's fine, who is it hurting? I don't think that it should be regulated as strictly a number. Now if I create a OOAK custom and I request that any offspring are not overbred to spread the edits out, I would probably give them a limit of 3-4 total and that would stretch to grandchildren. I agreed to similar rules when I bred with a specific custom and I have yet to breed the babies. If I really had a problem with the edits leaving my lair, I wouldn't allow breeding with that pet. I think that perhaps instead of the site deciding what over-breeding is as far as a set number, that the users who wish to have that rule in place be more specific when they state it. Don't feel bad about saying, no more than __# of breedings to keep the edits rare. If it turns people off breeding with your pet, then they weren't the right breeding match in the first place. ~Ekio
- Kitet (semi-hiatus)
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:11pm
Gonna just say that I also tend to think 10 breedings is the limit before you end up overbreeding.
- Kitsune
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:12pm
I don't really think overbreeding is a problem... I mean, if they are not all the same pairing, they will probably be sighly different. That's why I think it's up to the owner decide how much is too much XD
The big problem, imo, is the "breeding for profit". This one really makes me upset :p
- Tigg&(inactive)
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:13pm
For me overbreeding is when someone breeds a custom with someone else's edits and continually breeds them out of lair. Not only are the owner making unnecessary profit on someone else's work/custom they are devaluing the lines that other people paid for.
Ex. (just in case I'm not making sense)
I have a custom melo with an afro and glasses and he is unique or on rare lines so I breed him out to person B and K.
K is using a MBC so it'll be an exact copy of the edits on my custom right well K could turn around and offer free breeding, (or a lower price undercutting me) so I lose out on potential profit and the edits become common and appear in lairs more frequently.
B on the other hand is using an LBC and lets say the parent is heavily influenced by my custom well ideally generations down the line the offspring probably has lost my edit and taken some from the other ancestors. On the other hand there could be generations of afro's causing the exact same situation in the MBC example.
Any other coin doesn't count towards the problem of overbreeding (maybe plbc's and mbc's) because they either create hybrids or new edits on different bases or the same type of edits on different bases.
As long as they keep all the babies in their lair then I see no problem with overbreeding or inbreeding (since it has no negative effects)
- cinna
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Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:13pm
I really think it's more of an individual thing. Maybe someone with a "no overbreeding" rule should be specific about what they personally consider overbreeding, I think.
Posted on: Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:04pm
I think there's no such thing as overbreeding as long as it's the pet is bred with different pets. Otherwise I feel if it's the same pair, three times should be good enough 3-4 times should be good. :)