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Holiday Breeding Coin Changes & Predict Caps

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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.

As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.

However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.

So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.

From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.


I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.

This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.

If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.

ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS

BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.

For the tl;dr crowd:

- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.

Posted by Ash (#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm

Comments: 255


🌊 SeaCrest (#55939)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:33pm

I honestly think that this is a good change. I always wondered why HBCs gave two babies when BCs only gave one, given that they're cheaper. And for those who are upset about the retroactive part, I feel like if it wasn't, it would be harder for the administrative end to keep track of which breedings need two babies and which ones need one, and assign them appropriately.

Kyte (#51)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:34pm

Yeah, but BC has the Greater Fertility Potion. Is there a way to make it so GFP also works on HBC breedings?

Ancient Mew(Sylver) (#31969)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:34pm

The retroactiveness is the only issue I have with it too

JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:34pm

Erithan (#49253) No, and please don't use that g-word, that's a slur and it's unacceptable on Aywas. We just got ourselves out of a financial problem and we don't want to put ourselves right back into a problem of paying out more than the coin costs. We aren't going to make the HBC artists work for less so this is the only solution.

Cosmos (#25837) Ask for the coin to be refunded.

Ancient Mew(Sylver) (#31969)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:35pm

Omg yes J.A.K. (#15) can we use GFPs??

Inu (#45093)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:35pm

If a user did this, it would be considered scamming. I know that staff can change the rules and such at any moment, but they shouldn't do it in such a way that would get a user in trouble because it sets a poor example. It should be from this moment on, not retroactive.

Shycat (#45175)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:35pm

I don't think this should be retroactive, but I also understand that you're unlikely to change that. Still, it doesn't seem right.

Wouldn't it make more sense to raise the cost of the coin instead of changing the way things work? (Or am I gonna get shot for suggesting that?)

Guitarlos (#6879)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:36pm

This would be fine and wonderful... IF it wasn't retroactive. That's extremely unfair and not cool at all. This is not what people paid for, not what they waited paid breeding fees for, and not what they waited in queue for. - Azi

zeph & co (#6312)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:36pm

So, without the chance of getting two offspring, there are a significant amount of pairs in my queue that I'd prefer NOT to have anymore, and resubmit them, because I was looking for specific edit patterns. The issue here is that they're pendant breedings. I don't get my coin back if I cancel my breeding. Nor do I think it's fair that I have to go out and pay for art to get a second offspring when the breedings I have in queue stated that I'd get two when I submitted them. :/

I really don't feel like this should be retroactive, and you're not giving users what they're . And I have no problems with it being cut off, and the new rule being put into effect, but I feel it should be from this posts date forward.

Erithan - super busy (#49253)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:36pm

J.A.K. (#15) Sorry I didn't realize it was slur o.o, if you can edit it out please do!