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Holiday Breeding Coin Changes & Predict Caps

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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.

As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.

However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.

So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.

From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.


I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.

This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.

If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.

ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS

BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.

For the tl;dr crowd:

- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.

Posted by Ash (#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm

Comments: 255


Erithan - super busy (#49253)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:41pm

Jiangxi (#39262) Yes@@, figure my allergy ridden brain would pick and misspell something like that. x.x *feels really bad about the typo, and general unknown of term* *sigh*

Inu (#45093)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:42pm

That's assuming that they still have the breeding fee, and that's not fair to that user either. They shouldn't have to refund the cost for something that staff did. That would just be cruel to ask of another user, who is getting screwed for that.
Also, just being out of time...? Time is important.
If it IS going to be retroactive, there should be something given in return to make up for it. Perhaps an ability to submit two predicts and get 3 babies total as an apology. It would keep the artist from getting more work, and then you would get something out of it. Or, something as of the such. Though, not everyone can afford a predict or be able to do one for themselves, so I suggest finding something better for the users.
Because as it stands, you're screwing the userbase and we all just put in a lot of effort and money to support you, but you repay us like this. Find a way that won't put you in debt and won't hurt your users.

JayJay (#2916)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:42pm

Did I understand it correctly that there is one artist handling all the HBC breedings?

JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:43pm

Even the j-version of that word is still derivative from a slur... so it's not okay to use here. We've been over it a couple times before when that word was used in items, let alone in a negative context.

Kyte (#51)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:44pm

Frey (#90) What about for those retroactive people? Could they submit/add a GFP for the 2 babies they thought they were guaranteed as opposed to searching like crazy for artists to make predicts.

JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:44pm

I'm fine with the two predicts option. But I'm sorry unless you can think of something that DOESN'T put us in debt (and thus makes the wonderful efforts of the past week completely pointless, because we'd go out of business then being in debt) there's not much we can do about this situation. We're trying to correct problems like this without having to sacrifice the artist's pay.

Shycat (#45175)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:45pm

Hmm, or what if they worked like BCs do, since the comparison between the two coins has already been made? 50% chance for one or two babies (or make it 75% chance for one baby, since they cost less).

Or I like the idea of an add-on that makes there be two babies. I just like streamlining things so that users don't have to get predicts for the second baby, because I personally prefer to go through automated channels (I'm not saying I'm intimidated by hiring artists, but I'm kinda intimidated by hiring artists *cough*).

Erithan - super busy (#49253)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:46pm

J.A.K. (#15) totally understand x,x, stupid brain...please do edit or remove the post if it's possible.Very embarrassed.

Bex [others maybe] (#16)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:46pm

Ask for more GP paid HBC artists?

zeph & co (#6312)

Posted on: Sat May 9, 2015 9:46pm

J.A.K. (#15) - What's this going to do to my pendant slots? I don't get a coin back with split breedings, so I can't get these refunded.