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Holiday Breeding Coin Changes & Predict Caps

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This newspost is going to be a potentially upsetting one to some people, but please bear with as I explain some changes we are making to Holiday Breeding Coins.

As a result of raising the pay for contract breeding artists and giving them fairer wages for their work, a problem began with edited coins. Holiday Breeding Coins were a great way to breed Silver pets and other genuses without getting a hybrid, and for a cheaper price.

However, the fact that Holiday Breeding Coins typically produce two offspring regularly (instead of the chance of 1 or 2 via gold Breeding Coins) means that the queue, now quite large, competes with the regular Breeding Coin queue and clogs up artist time. This creates long wait times for offspring from both coins in the end. Because of the fact that they are also cheaper than gold Breeding Coins, the cost effectiveness of doing two offspring and paying out the same is not sustainable. We also do not want to lower artist pay for Holiday Coin artists either, since that also isn't fair.

So as of today, the Holiday Breeding Coin will only produce one offspring by the artist team. As a compromise, however, if the breeding has common/uncommon species parents, you are welcome to submit a second offspring via predict if you choose. This is retroactive and will affect all current breedings in queue that have not yet been assigned to an artist. Up until this newspost date you will also be allowed, for said retroactive breedings, to submit ONE predict for rare parent HBC breedings and TWO predicts for common/uncommon HBC breedings. Married pairs in this retroactive period can receive 2 predicts for rare parents, and 3 predicts for common/uncommon.

From tomorrow onward, however, any new breedings will get one artist baby for rares, and one artist baby+one predict baby for common/uncommon. Married pairs will get one artist baby + one predict for rares, and one artist baby + two predicts for common/uncommon.


I will give the Holiday queue a week as of tomorrow, May 10th, a time period that, if you wish to request a refund of your breeding due to the change, you will be welcome to ask me to do so personally. Remember that you can easily flag a breeding as having predicts to take it out of the assignment queue if you wish to put predicts without risk of having it assigned.

This is an inconvenience, I know, but the fact of the matter is we wish to be able to keep fair pay for the artists involved while also keeping ahead financially. We will have a dedicated Holiday Coin artist for a few months to see how this helps us as well, and ensure that the queue moves at a steady pace.

If you have any questions or other concerns regarding this, please don't hesitate to ask.

ADDENDUM FOR PREDICT CAPS

BC predict caps have been raised to 15 GP per one predict. HBC predicts are 25 GP per one predict.

For the tl;dr crowd:

- GP Predict cap for HBC has been raised to 25, as requested.
- Rare breeders with HBC can add an extra predict for free. Uncommon/Common breeders can add two extra predicts for free, meaning you get an extra baby that you expected with HBC. This is good for all breedings submitted before this news post.
- A new USD item will be added for $20 that will fund another 30% edited baby in an HBC breeding. Yes, it will work for rares too. It will also allow you to select which parent species you want in common/uncommon breedings.

Posted by Ash (#90) on Sat May 9, 2015 9:24pm

Comments: 255


JAK (#15)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:53am

Aria (#330) Absolutely incorrect. Our terms of service, which everyone agrees to in order to play the game, states: "Aywas may change the services provided by our site for any reason. Aywas may change any fees and charges for accessing the site, purchasing items, currency, or pets, or any other content associated with Aywas. Aywas reserves the right to revoke access to any user of the site. Aywas may change the hardware or software of the site as well as terminate anything related to the site. Aywas reserves the right to terminate the service to any and all users, including closing Aywas down. Aywas will not refund any services, virtual items, currency, upgrades, or pets purchased in the event that the site closes."

Kwani & Kamorth (#2868)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:56am

Aria (#330) Pretty sure "Aywas may change the services provided by our site for any reason." in the ToS covers that. I mean, that's the main contract we all agree to by playing the site, and that clause is included in it, so there wouldn't be much of a case legally if someone was willing to chase after it over something that's ultimately this small.

Draylin (Saphire) (#407)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:56am

J.A.K. (#15) Please don't ever close Aywas. Even mentioning that possibility makes me depressed ;;

Kwani & Kamorth (#2868)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 12:56am

Ninja'd

Fannish (FreeFlier) (#1818)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 1:27am

Just to clarify, I CAN still use the HBC for Silver x Silver breedings, right?

Zenko (#58939)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 1:39am

It's stuff like this that really makes me not want to pay for any breeding coins at all ever. They're expensive enough, and then they get all these extra little "gotcha" expenses or are changed to become worthless?

I really don't understand why this is retroactive. Why are you punishing users for something that isn't their fault?

Sui (#9847)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 1:55am

So, I'm still not understanding the retroactive breedings. For retroactive breedings only, due to this change, we can get an extra (predict) baby, so 1 site + 2 predict for common/uncommon and 1+1 for rares? Is the extra baby a sort of compensation for the change?

Satin & Chenille (#10)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:01am

lmao ppl are so entitled....pick two....fast, quality/quantity, or cheap. you want cheap and more offspring the whole site suffers the long queue. you want fast and quality/quantity, be prepared to pay more. otherwise you get less offspring for faster and cheap. work on this site is not sustainable the way the users have been spoiled thus far and artist labor should not be devalued like it already is everywhere else. things like this are inevitable changes to reimburse artists for work they do and still keep the site afloat.

Sunny (#41814)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:31am

I agree with Mike & Chuck (#10) - but I disagree with the retroactive aspect, tho I can understand the rationale behind the retroactive aspect.

It's the users who made deals for split breedings that are gonna hurt the most, I think, from the retroactive thing - but how can Frey or even Slash check through all those submissions to find out who's split, etc?

So all in all, I do think Slash and Frey did hammer out a fair resolution, even amending some stuff, adding an USD item to help. They didn't have to do that. They did that because they thought ultimately, it would benefit everyone, over time.

ChaosAzeroth (#43055)

Posted on: Sun May 10, 2015 2:38am

work on this site is not sustainable the way the users have been spoiled thus far

I think that's a huge part of the issue here. Most users believe that the way it was was functionally fine because it was that way for so long. So it's baffling that it could be bad.The average user believes things are as intended unless it's something they can see or are told. ((Like queue movement or when the crap happened with the chargebacks ad we were told.)) I think this news isn't registering fully because it's kind of a shock, plus initial reaction vs interaction. People are reacting, not interacting. In time, cooler heads will prevail I'm sure.