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Yasu coded for me a 60-day regen, so I'm using it for the purpose of making Lesser Breeding Pendants 60 day regen. I know people will be rather upset by this, but with several hundreds in circulation and the price of pendant slots still horribly devalued, this needs to be done to cut back. I mean, look at the queue...
Lesser Breeding Coin (x311) | Lesser Breeding Pendant (x383)
This should not be as imbalanced. Pendants are supposed to be rare, so we're hoping this combats it. Think of it logically:
RBPS and MBPs are cheapest and pendants regen at 30 days.
LBPs are mid-grade in price and regen at 60 days.
BPs, EBPS, PBPs, and HBPs are the rarest, and are at a 90 day regen for this reason.
Please understand we do this to keep the balance in the system, and we really want to be fair on all accounts. This effectively means for the amount of LBCs people submit, a little over that amount comes around for free in the system. I hope this pans out eventually despite the obvious frustrations it will cause.
Now aside from this, spend those Candy Canes and Snowflakes and carry on merrily!
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:27pm
- Bynks
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:22pm
Hmmm, while I do not have a breeding pendant the only excuse for being upset about the change is that they want the investment to pay off now instead of later. I understand that they are very expensive and this will most likely only make them more so because of the longer wait (or people will be so upset the prices might drop could go either way) but I can see how this was needed if the queues are getting too long and there is not enough reliable and talented help. Plus, it probably isn't free to acquire that help either so the expense over time becomes more than the income coming in making it that much harder to afford the help needed, not to mention to do server upkeep and the lot. There is a lot more involved with this change that what I think people are understanding and the only way it could have been avoided was to have free and talented help... which is even harder to come by than free help. So yes, the investment WILL eventually pay off... just not right away. Also, since the item was supposed to be rare to begin with I can see how this has become too "common" of an item and the longer wait time might be needed since so many are available. The dynamics of the pendant are only being fixed to match the rarity. Sure I may have to save up a TON to get one if I ever wanted one, but if I want it bad enough I will. Patience is a virtue that too many do not have anymore I am afraid.
- Bynks
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:22pm
Sorry about double post....
- wolfcat
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:50pm
They aren't a common item by any means. There just aren't enough people on staff to handle the few out there. There are a handful of staff to over 40k? users. There's bound to be more and more issues.
- Bynks
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:57pm
With that ratio I can see even more why they would do this. While some people do make their own predicts and such, I am sure there are twice that many that want a site artist to do it. >.< I can see the need to reduce the breedings granted a year because of this.
- Kira
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:58pm
Xia, I believe they already are AD otherwise they would be cloned like heck XD
Frey, I hope you know we aren't blaming you. Or at least I am not. I understand you are merely at the frontline of this. I will stop ranting as I realize it truly must be taxing for you but I hope the staff does see why the users are upset about this. And you are right about users not needing to buy LBCs while we have pendants but there is no way users only want to submit 12 breedings a year, we are insatiable and you know it, lol. I know I have bought around 7 LBCs in the past 2 weeks even though I own LPBs. Normally when a user invests in an LBP, it's because they are addicted to the breeding aspect this site offers. I know how difficult it probably is to find reliable and talented artists. I'm not going to say hire more help because I've seen you advertising looking for new staff/artists almost since I joined. Maybe not releasing more breeding items like the PBCs for a while until the queue for both predicts and normal breedings would help? I love the PBCs so don't misunderstand me and I am getting off topic so I am going to poof now.
- Kira
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:05pm
Bynks, there are so many pendants because staff did not regulate them as well as they should have. I agree with how they are regulating the Platinum Pendants because it will prevent the problems with the LBPs. So, do not say the users are being complainers because they want the pendants to pay themselves off. I don't. I am bothered because of how this was carried out. It highly de-values what I invested in and planned to resell after a while. Very few users have had the pendants long enough for them to pay themselves off in breedings. If they were to sell the pendants now, instead of selling for the 400-500 they sold for, they will probably sell for around 250 or around there because of the sudden slashing of their use. This is the main reason people are complaining. Not because they can breed less, because LBCs will still be available, but because we got told nothing about our investments being sacrificed. And the staff to user ratio is indeed crazy but the pendant to user ratio is actually pretty low too if you think 350ish pendants for 40k users.
- Bynks
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:41pm
Yes, that may be true, but people also have to consider how many staff there are to how many breedings there are in a month. That many pendant breedings a month compared to the LBC breedings a month and they seem to be overwhelmed. While the pendants may not have been regulated properly, which this corrects, it still seems like a majority are only complaining because they cannot use them once a month. While investing that much GP at a time for something only to have the limit changed is annoying it was most likely needed or they wouldn't have made the change. I can see the other end too, as having an expectation after spending so much only to find out later it was changed is a bit unfair but I do not see a better way to fix both problems concerning the rarity issue that was brought up and the issue of having the time to finish the breedings. People can only do so much over time. The only other thing they could have done was to delete a good few of the items entirely from the game and that would be worse than simply upping the time limit. At least players still get to keep the pendants. I can see how it might be frustrating that the staff didn't mention the change at all before doing it but I think even with mentioning it something would have had to be done to reduce the large workload. People also make mistakes but in all fairness, they are trying their best to allow people to still use the pendants they have while balancing out the amount of work and the previous mistake made about regulating the pendants. To me it seems like a fair option to simply removing some of the pendants from game or putting a long wait time, say 90 days, on it.
- Night Wind
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 5:38pm
I have been reading many of the comments on this news post and thought I would weigh in with my opinion.
I realize that there are way too many LBPs in the system and for the health of the site they need to be taken out of circulation but I believe that there were probably better ways that this could of been handled. Ways that would not have caused such a huge controversy.
I would have preferred that first the site try to soak up the excess LBPs by offering an exchange for another high value item(s). I do realize that this is being done now but it is after the fact. I believe that it would have been better to do it before this was done in order to see how well that would soak up the LBP excess and then go to a more contentious solution.
I realize that the breeding log is being backed up and Frey has a point in that he/she is trying to find more artists but it is hard to find reliable and talent people. All of that is true but we could have changed the rules and required that any LBP breeding had to have predicts submitted with it. That would have freed up the breeding artists.
For the people who are saying that these are free breedings I would like to point out that a LBP is either bought with gp/items/sp (or rarely gifted)
but whatever currency is used it has to be earned. I personally got my LBP through SP and trust me it was hard to earn that. So as an example if you bought a dvd burner to burn home movies (using your hard earned money) and thought you would be able to burn your own home videos (saving five dollars a disc) and then learned it would only do half of what you thought it was promised to do would you chalk it up to the fact that the other dvds that were burned were free? I doubt it. Work (effort put in) has no value except the value you place on it (the currency). This doesn't even mention the people who bought gp to get a pendant from another player.
I realize the problem and I respect that the admins want to do what is best for the site but I think that other avenues could have been explored before this was done.
- BloodyBaroness🍬
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Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:02pm
I just wish I had a pendant of any kind. XD
It's hard to please everyone all the time, but if means less queue, faster babies, that's a good thing.
Posted on: Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:20pm
Hmmm, while I do not have a breeding pendant the only excuse for being upset about the change is that they want the investment to pay off now instead of later. I understand that they are very expensive and this will most likely only make them more so because of the longer wait (or people will be so upset the prices might drop could go either way) but I can see how this was needed if the queues are getting too long and there is not enough reliable and talented help. Plus, it probably isn't free to acquire that help either so the expense over time becomes more than the income coming in making it that much harder to afford the help needed, not to mention to do server upkeep and the lot. There is a lot more involved with this change that what I think people are understanding and the only way it could have been avoided was to have free and talented help... which is even harder to come by than free help. So yes, the investment WILL eventually pay off... just not right away. Also, since the item was supposed to be rare to begin with I can see how this has become too "common" of an item and the longer wait time might be needed since so many are available. The dynamics of the pendant are only being fixed to match the rarity. Sure I may have to save up a TON to get one if I ever wanted one, but if I want it bad enough I will. Patience is a virtue that too many do not have anymore I am afraid.