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First up, some good news, I am still alive~ Woohoo. I was without power for almost a solid week, in sub zero temperatures, it was horrible.
But I am back and trying to catch up! My first order of business however is not so great news.
As many of you are aware of, Xaocs cannot be bred to eachother with any coin, however this was ignored for some time with Sketch Breeding Coins. After working with several artists and discussing it with staff, Xaoc x Xaoc can no longer be bred with Sketch Breeding Coins and I will be refunding any beedings that do so.
There is a strict rule that you cannot have a clone of rare genus', and breeding two of them together creates a clone in 99% of these situations.
Sorry for any inconvenience this poses!

Note: Sorry guys, I'm gonna talk to you through the news post cause there is far too many of you to ping directly. First up, thankyou everyone for your well wishes. The cats and my family are all alright now and bracing for the blizzard that is gonna shut my whole state down. Hoping to finish my work today before the brunt of it hits, if I vanish again just assume I don't have power.
Regarding the Xaoc, this is not a new rule. Xaocs have never been allowed to breed eachother with any coin unless there is an addon to change the species of the baby.
For more information you can visit This KB Article and in the bottom you will see the footnote: " Ultra Rares can only be breed together using a breeding coin IF an add-on which results in a different genus for the offspring is attached. Such add-ons include Mutagenic Ooze, Hybrid Embryo, Hybrid Genetics Kit, Unidentified Embryo, and Genus in a Bottle."

Several got through the queue beforehand, so I tried to continue this but after causing quite a bit of strife for my artists as well as myself it has been decided it isn't workable. I have had to send back Xaoc x Xaoc babies repeatedly because they were just too close to looking like a Xaoc. Several that did manage to pass before I took over end up having to go through fixes because they were still to close to being a Xaoc so they couldn't actually be created as a species.
Anybody who has their breeding refunded is welcome to contact me so we can try to resolve this situation with as little unpleasantness as possible. Upsetting people is *not* my goal, it never is.

Posted by 🐼Kaiyo🐼 (#489) on Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:19pm

Comments: 52


fern 🌿 (#22982)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:36pm

My Xaoc breeding was assigned for 22 days already and now is simply rejected even though I only wanted 1 sketch baby of it which would never have even been based, let alone be made into a species or anything. Also there are already such sketch babies around and at least one such species so yeah seems a bit too late to implement this but I guess I'm just upset about the wasted time and funds.

ChaosAzeroth (#43055)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:42pm

While I'm not defending the tone or the aim of the accusation, I can say unfortunately a lot of good will was used up before you took over and while NOT your fault this does hit a sore spot. So many things were left to fester and blow up before you took over, and the changes did nothing but penalize the users tbh. I feel like you're going to unfortunately get venom from people who seem to forget that you more recently took over, and people who are lashing out hurt because in the past the fixes never really fixed anything for the users and only took away things.

Tae (#66637)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:58pm

I didn't even know breeding a Xaoc x Xaoc pair with a sketch coin was allowed previously... since there has always been the no super rare x super rare rule for all other coins.

vladthebad (#8672)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:22pm

Kaiyo: Bless you, I'm glad to hear that you have power again. I hope that you're all okay - Including the cats! Thanks for keeping everything running. It is appreciated!

♥ Mochi ♥ (#70211)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:31pm

It makes sense to change this, and it's a shame about those who had breedings waiting and feel like they missed out - but the way I see it, I think no matter which way it was handled there would still be hard feelings over it. If the breedings already submitted were allowed to be done, you'd have people upset who were planning on doing a breeding and hadn't submitted it yet, probably.

Mostly gone (#58780)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:48pm

can rbcs breed xaoc and xaoc? 🎁❄Kaiyo❄⛄ (#489)

♎ Astra ♎ (#16365)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:49pm

A full week, brr! I know how miserable that is. :x

Faerie Lady (#5227)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:09pm

This is just another stepped towards a better and more stable Aywas! Progress always has an unsavory moment or two as the bad things are weeded out!

Conium (#39365)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:18pm

I didn't know this and it makes sense, but it's a sad note that we're plunging even further down the "RARE RARE RARE, THROW YOUR MONEY AT US OR YOU NEVER EARN THE THING" hole. So many things these days only benefit people who can throw cash at the site, and little rewards people with skill or dedication. I was hoping with the "hey we messed up and we know it, we're trying to move forward and do better" news post awhile back that we'd see more funding going into that but. That doesn't look like it's going to be the case.

caveSalamander (#64257)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:27pm

Conium[treat4treat] (#39365)

Tbh I don't really mind that there's a few things that require cash on site - because it keeps the people who are willing to shell out money for exclusive things shelling out that money, which allows people like us who can't afford a whole lot, or if you're artistic, can only contribute in non-money ways, being able to enjoy the site for cheap or free.

I know a lot of people really like the Xaocs and Teos, and it would be super great to have them, but if not having them while rich people do is the price I have to pay for having a free/cheap experience here on Aywas, that seems worth it to me...