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First up, some good news, I am still alive~ Woohoo. I was without power for almost a solid week, in sub zero temperatures, it was horrible.
But I am back and trying to catch up! My first order of business however is not so great news.
As many of you are aware of, Xaocs cannot be bred to eachother with any coin, however this was ignored for some time with Sketch Breeding Coins. After working with several artists and discussing it with staff, Xaoc x Xaoc can no longer be bred with Sketch Breeding Coins and I will be refunding any beedings that do so.
There is a strict rule that you cannot have a clone of rare genus', and breeding two of them together creates a clone in 99% of these situations.
Sorry for any inconvenience this poses!

Note: Sorry guys, I'm gonna talk to you through the news post cause there is far too many of you to ping directly. First up, thankyou everyone for your well wishes. The cats and my family are all alright now and bracing for the blizzard that is gonna shut my whole state down. Hoping to finish my work today before the brunt of it hits, if I vanish again just assume I don't have power.
Regarding the Xaoc, this is not a new rule. Xaocs have never been allowed to breed eachother with any coin unless there is an addon to change the species of the baby.
For more information you can visit This KB Article and in the bottom you will see the footnote: " Ultra Rares can only be breed together using a breeding coin IF an add-on which results in a different genus for the offspring is attached. Such add-ons include Mutagenic Ooze, Hybrid Embryo, Hybrid Genetics Kit, Unidentified Embryo, and Genus in a Bottle."

Several got through the queue beforehand, so I tried to continue this but after causing quite a bit of strife for my artists as well as myself it has been decided it isn't workable. I have had to send back Xaoc x Xaoc babies repeatedly because they were just too close to looking like a Xaoc. Several that did manage to pass before I took over end up having to go through fixes because they were still to close to being a Xaoc so they couldn't actually be created as a species.
Anybody who has their breeding refunded is welcome to contact me so we can try to resolve this situation with as little unpleasantness as possible. Upsetting people is *not* my goal, it never is.

Posted by 🐼Kaiyo🐼 (#489) on Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:19pm

Comments: 52


🐼Kaiyo🐼 (#489)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:43pm

Calankh (#33835) The pets were coming out looking like Alt Xaocs, so even if something is unique if you breed two of the same hooded pets with minimal edits, the pet is still going to come out being a hooded pet with a xaoc face (unless the face was edited). It was those unedited face ones that were causing issues, and in the past I have had to send back xaoc twin babies repeatedly, but the artists only get paid for 1 final baby. So they ended up putting a lot more effort into these babies than they were getting paid for.

Kandria (#293)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:44pm

🎄 Anailaigh 🎄 (#72649)
That's not how it works when something is outright allowing for the breaking of rules on the site. There are several clone babies that had to be re-done, I know this because I was helping with breeding fixes for a while. Even when it was allowed, the babies had to be be fixed, and put an un-due burden on the artists to try to make a baby that reflected rare parents, that didn't break the rules. I'm also sure Kaiyo would work with anyone that DID have a coin in Queue who had a real problem with it. Since you don't you really can't speak for users that do, because they might just be fine with this. It's quite common for changes for this not to grandfather in, when it's something that is outright a problem for the site. They're very good at grandfathering in when they can, and it's rather rude to make an unfair statement like you did in that regard.

Calankh (#33835)
There are a few out there, I think if the rules stayed the same as they did when I was helping with mistakes, the users that it happened to are not allowed to make their babies into a species, or breedable, but they're also allowed to ask for a baby re-do in that case because it's not their fault that is slipped past before Kaiyo took over.

Prof JaMEW (#2712)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:11pm

I am no longer on the SBC team, but I understand the problem breeding a minimal edit xaoc with another minimal edit to metal xaoc causes.
I think it is a good choice.

Oh? aprils fools daaaay?

Kitsune (#17645)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:13pm

Omg, for a minute I thought that xaocs would be removed from site. I panicked a little.

Toby (#24557)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:17pm

Glad to see your back Kaiyo. I hope life gives you a break soon. You deserve it. <3

Loveless (#19023)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:21pm

amberdragon (#27649) Well that was incredibly rude and uncalled for =/ It takes a lot more work when clones are made because all people who own Xaocs don't want clones of them and they need to stay rare. This move was for the best interest of the site. Next time maybe think before blaming someone without having facts.

🎁❄Kaiyo❄⛄ (#489) I am glad you and your family have the power back. It's been brutally cold, I am glad you guys are all ok. ^-^

Loveless (#19023)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:22pm

Er @_@ Sorry amberdragon (#27649), mistypled the person that was meant for xD

🎄 Anailaigh 🎄 (#72649) See above

Xenephos (#55335)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:25pm

By breeding rare genuses, does that mean of the same species or does it mean cross-species too (i.e. Snoodle X Jura)

Viri - See Profile (#597)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:27pm

That's great news! And I'm so glad you now have heating, 🎁❄Kaiyo❄⛄ (#489) <3 - V

🐼Kaiyo🐼 (#489)

Posted on: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:29pm

Xenephos (#55335) It depends on the coin, some of them allow same species like painted, Alidae allows cross, BC can breed same/cross with addons.
Loveless (#19023) Thankyou ;; It was soooo cold, if we didn't have cats we would have gone to the shelter down the road.
Toby (Love letters) (#24557) No rest for the wicked~