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Hey all! I know my newsposts aren't always the most interesting and some can cause a lot of sadfacing but I hope this isn't one of those times! I know this has been something that a lot of users have questioned over time so I wanted to talk a little about breeding refunds.
Yes, we do refund stuff on the breeding end, but at times we don't. There's been confusion on what we do and don't refund so here's a handy guide for you all.
PLEASE NOTE: The rule of thumb is it's a case by case basis a lot of times. Your best bet if you want something refunded is, if you see a mistake/you make an error/you have an issue and you know that you need a refund, message me (Frey #90), Mauri #1010 or Zephy #215 as soon as possible. Meaning, immediately when you realize the error. If you don't you risk not getting a refund if we notice something's up with your breeding in the queue.
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Refunded Breedings:
I. Breedings between two separate genus of pets that are not valid for that coin. Example being someone accidentally potioning over a pet in an LBC Lacer breeding, rendering it Lacer x Oakl which isn't allowed for that coin.
II. Breedings with separate linearts (alt x normal for instance) without predicts. Example being if we come across your Alt Orimi x normal Orimi LBC in queue when assigning and you haven't done predicts yet, the coin will be refunded.
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Not Refunded Breedings:
I. Any add-ons that aren't compatible for a breeding. Example being If you use a Hybrid Embryo on an MBC breeding... tough luck. Read what they do first!
II. Breedings that go against the rules for a coin. Example being breeding two pets that are clearly over 5% on a MBC, especially not checking their compatibility with Zephy's thread.
III. Breedings with pets that can't be bred, like special event pets specifically designated unbreedable or in the case of a glitch where the pet is not breedable but it somehow goes through. You have to tell staff about glitches like this or risk losing your coin. A good example of the first is trying to breed two Xaocs with an LBC... haha just don't try.
IV. Breedings with pets that aren't allowed for a particular coin. Example being breeding two Inari with an MBC. You can't use this coin for the pair so it'll be automatically rejected.
V. Requested rejections so you can add any add-ons to the breeding that you forgot to do upon submission.
VI. Requested rejections without any sort of mistake or reason, aside from wanting the coin back. If you decided two months in that you don't want the breeding anymore, you won't have it refunded, sorry.
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I know these might sound kind of harsh but like I stated above, if you find you did something in error message a breeding mod! I give refunds, but Mauri #1010 or Zephy #215 are also authorized to give out rejections or refunds on a case-by-case basis. You're always better off reading all rules and getting to one of us if you make a mistake. Hopefully this will shed some light on why some people get refunds and why some don't too! It's not meant to be unfair, it's meant to get you to reeeead.
Posted by Ash
(#90) on Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:28pm
- JayJay
(#2916)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:17pm
@Jemenai (#2040)- Under the archives section of the top menu, there are two tutorials that would be a good place for you to start; the breeding tutorial and the predicts info pages.
- Ash
(#90)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:22pm
YourFavorite, I put 'gold Breeding Coin' as an amendment to the Hybrid Embryo, is that better clarification?
- Anastasia
(#35750)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:24pm
I sent Frey a message on June 28 that I had realized I had accidentally released to the wild a pet that was involved in an RBC breeding but I never received an answer. So, under the above rules, can I cancel that breeding and get the coin and add-on refunded?
- Cherry
(#35040)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:44pm
Frey I sent you a message about my breeding and as far as I know there was nothing wrong with it, but it failed and I did not get my coin back. This was my first breeding and I read the Breeding Tutorial and thought I'd done everything correctly.
So if I could get a response to that I'd really, really appreciate it.
- LA's DarkFireWolf
(#34528)
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Posted on: Sun Jul 8, 2012 12:49am
Good to know. I try to read all the Tutorials or ask friends/mods to make sure I do something right before submitting. I think what can be slightly confusing Frey, or whoever may see this is that, the tutorial here and on the wiki can give different info. Like the wiki, shows what items are compatible with what. Which I think would be so helpful shown here in any of the tutorials. In fact any actual visuals would help someone like myself. I fail at reading tutorials I can get confused easier than some (er most) so, when I actually see like 2 + 2 = 4. It helps me so much. But, I just learn visually ;3.
- Kiwi Quiche
(#9493)
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Posted on: Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:11am
Ah, thanks for the heads-up Frey :3
- NyctiCorax
(#1965)
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Posted on: Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:01am
Actually I thought the rules would be even harsher.. never thought you'd get a coin back for submitting two different linearts. xD But thanks for the reminder on this. I haven't done any wrong breedings myself, but I saw sooo many questions about it!
- Nyke
(#9756)
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Posted on: Sun Jul 8, 2012 7:56am
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Heh, I admit no different then how I thought things went but good to see it in "Black and White" form (aka written out for all to see just so there is no confusion). But then I've always found all the staff and many users to be great at clarifying questions.
- Jemenai
(#2040)
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Posted on: Sun Jul 8, 2012 10:10am
Thank you JayKay :)
Posted on: Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:03pm
So for I under non-refunded breedings... I don't want to seem like a whiner but in some cases that doesn't seem quite fair. Simply because the description for the hybrid embryo (in particular) was worded in such a way that some people might think it works with a MBC. Because it says "Your Breeding Coin breeding" and the phrase "breeding coin" can mean the item or the general class of items, if you know what I mean. I honestly had no idea it had that restriction until this news post, and had to go back and read it again, and it still took me a few times to get what you guys meant by not being able to use it with an MBC. Some sort of note in the description ("Does not work with other breeding coins") would be a little redundant but help make it more clear. Or you can give Breeding Coins a different name (but that seems even more silly).
This doesn't really affect me right now but I could see how I could've easily gotten screwed over by something silly like that. In that case I could see someone having read the description, but still screw up.