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We said we would be back for your input on some big changes, so here we are.
We've been making many short-term changes to breeding lately, namely in the withholding of Coins until the queues die down. However, there was one aspect that we didn't touch on at the time as we were still working to gather ideas on how we could compromise between fairness to the userbase (you guys!) and to everyone working behind the scenes on the breeding panel.
So now, let's discuss breeding pendants.
Unfortunately or not, depending on where your opinions lie, Breeding Pendants are going to have to change. However, we wanted to let everyone share their voice and opinions on the matter. We've come up with a few ideas that we think you'll like!
Pendants become predict-only, but the regeneration time is reduced. This means that Pendants will work as Half Breeding Coins, but will have a faster regeneration time than they currently do.
Pendants have their regeneration time doubled. For instance, Breeding Pendants currently have a 3-month cooldown. If this option wins, that time will be doubled to a 6-month cooldown, and so on as applicable for each Pendant.
Pendants take more time to regenerate but can be traded in for a predict-only version that retains the original regeneration rate. The new rate will be discussed among staff, but, as said, the Pendant could be traded for a version that works as a Half Breeding Coin with the current cooldown.
Pendants have a longer regeneration time but owners are compensated with a regenerating custom-making item. This will vary between Pendants, but if, for instance, a Pendant that could be used 4 times a year was changed to having a regeneration time that made it so it could only be used 2 times a year, then the custom-making item would have those 2 lost uses per year. As Eve put it when we were discussing it, " 4 uses reduced to 2, custom maker gives 2 uses a year"
The 2nd most voted-for option with the addition of turning in the Pendant for another item. This one is fairly straightforward -- if this choice wins, we'll take the option with the 2nd highest vote count and then, later down the line, release a second poll with options for the turn-in.
We understand that some of you are going to be upset, that you feel like your Pendant isn't worth what was paid for it, but we also need to maintain a balance on the site to ensure our breeding artists don't get burnt out almost before they begin. Staff hopes that these options, or at least one of them, will appeal to you!
Posted by Juke
(#7625) on Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:01pm
- Tae
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:46am
What TJ said. I siwched all my breeding / holidy coins to the half versions when the options came out... and then had to wait a year to two to get predicts becuase outside of the PPP event it's basically impossible due to the predict caps to get artists for edited coins.
The only pendent I have is a RBP ... which would basically be useless outside of PPP for predict only, but gave me an idea. What if all pendents (maybe a -limited time only thing until stuff is figured out) had a break chance like the radioactive ones?
- Belawy
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:54am
If they become predict only I'd definitely have to cancel all my breedings with site pets as I can't work without an actual psd, and getting said psds is impossible unless you happen to be a site artist. Which, let me put in my two cents here, is complete bull.
- Haru
(#46917)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:57am
If pendants are so bad then why they do exist in the first place? :o
- Haru
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:00am
My point is, why create something that would crash the economy later on. If they are indeed so bad then they shouldn't exist in the first place
- Juke
(#7625)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:54am
Haru (#46917) They were created years ago when the breeding artists could still be reliably paid in USD -- times change and that is no longer the case.
- Juke
(#7625)
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:27am
Atmos (#67066) That event you're describing is happening now :] That's what the Predict Pool Party is!
- Kita🦊
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:35am
I'm going to quote what Lotus said earlier.
In queue there are "66 BC coins vs 138 Pendant submissions" and "29 PBC coins vs 41 Pendant submissions."
This is broken. We cannot sell coins, we cannot find artists to empty the queues (because even though we aren't selling coins, they are still going up because of pendant regeneration).
This has been a problem for a while now, and yes Haru (#46917), hindsight is 20/20 unfortunately! I also want to clarify that the current set of staff are not the ones who introduced pendants or had a say in whether they were released or not, that was way before almost all of our times. We are the ones who came along after and are having to deal with the backlash of the introduction of an item with no thought to what will happen X years down the line and trying to find a change other than "get rid of pendants."
- Syn
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:58am
I have a Lesser breeding pendant. They've already been nerfed in regards to regeneration. That's fine. I really really don't want them to go predict only either. I'm barely on aywas these days, and am here mostly just to put in the breeding with my lesser pendant, and then collect ponies. If it goes predict only, then I know I'd be forced to sell a gift I was given because I don't have the time/effort/means of paying someone to do predicts.
I think there should be multiple polls to decide the fate of each pendant, instead of an overall sweeping change.
- OKami_hu
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Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:55am
As it is, basically every single coin is perdict only already if you'd like to get the offspring in a reasonable time... It's just, while I have over 300GPs, I'm a little reluctant to spend more money on pixels, but artists mainly just want USD... Which is totally fair. After all, you can't eat pixels.
It seems to me that not a lot of people offer their services for GP, since they can also ask for USD. Maybe if there would be a highly usable, very high-priced item that you can only get for GP...? (Nuke the SP shop already?)
Posted on: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:34am
As someone who owns several pendants, I'm very much in support of predict only! With a reduced regeneration time I can sell my slots to other people and invest that gp into making money to buy my own predicts. I'm thinking that maybe there could be an incentive to clear out the pendant queues as is, though? Like I find that it's hard to find artists outside of PPP because of capped predicts - could something be put in place where if you're working on predicts for a preestablished pendant breeding, it could be capless? That would at least clear out the queue some I think, because people would be more inclined to offer their services all year around. - TJ