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We said we would be back for your input on some big changes, so here we are.
We've been making many short-term changes to breeding lately, namely in the withholding of Coins until the queues die down. However, there was one aspect that we didn't touch on at the time as we were still working to gather ideas on how we could compromise between fairness to the userbase (you guys!) and to everyone working behind the scenes on the breeding panel.
So now, let's discuss breeding pendants.
Unfortunately or not, depending on where your opinions lie, Breeding Pendants are going to have to change. However, we wanted to let everyone share their voice and opinions on the matter. We've come up with a few ideas that we think you'll like!
Pendants become predict-only, but the regeneration time is reduced. This means that Pendants will work as Half Breeding Coins, but will have a faster regeneration time than they currently do.
Pendants have their regeneration time doubled. For instance, Breeding Pendants currently have a 3-month cooldown. If this option wins, that time will be doubled to a 6-month cooldown, and so on as applicable for each Pendant.
Pendants take more time to regenerate but can be traded in for a predict-only version that retains the original regeneration rate. The new rate will be discussed among staff, but, as said, the Pendant could be traded for a version that works as a Half Breeding Coin with the current cooldown.
Pendants have a longer regeneration time but owners are compensated with a regenerating custom-making item. This will vary between Pendants, but if, for instance, a Pendant that could be used 4 times a year was changed to having a regeneration time that made it so it could only be used 2 times a year, then the custom-making item would have those 2 lost uses per year. As Eve put it when we were discussing it, " 4 uses reduced to 2, custom maker gives 2 uses a year"
The 2nd most voted-for option with the addition of turning in the Pendant for another item. This one is fairly straightforward -- if this choice wins, we'll take the option with the 2nd highest vote count and then, later down the line, release a second poll with options for the turn-in.
We understand that some of you are going to be upset, that you feel like your Pendant isn't worth what was paid for it, but we also need to maintain a balance on the site to ensure our breeding artists don't get burnt out almost before they begin. Staff hopes that these options, or at least one of them, will appeal to you!
Posted by Juke
(#7625) on Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:01pm
- Issey (Pirate)
(#142)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:25pm
I think all users should consider this: the faster we can sort the queues out the faster we can have breeding coins in general for sale again. Right now nobody can breed because pendant users exist in the queue.
Glad to see something happening about this. It is about time.
- Kandria
(#293)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:25pm
🐲cyphers1011 (#44304)
That is what the poll is about though, people can vot for a change across the board, or like what you said is an option
"Pendants take more time to regenerate but can be traded in for a predict-only version that retains the original regeneration rate. The new rate will be discussed among staff, but, as said, the Pendant could be traded for a version that works as a Half Breeding Coin with the current cooldown."
it makes it so it can be traded OR have a longer time, we tried to split the options but also combine what might be popular splits
- Calankh
(#33835)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:43pm
curious how many pendants are on active account on the site? Seems like the options for extending regen time just kick the problem down the road a bit without solving it.
I feel like the trade in shouldn't be an option, just do it. this is a 'we want the site to keep existing' level issue, like with the NPC revamp from a few years ago.
- AremRae
(#3998)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:43pm
I feel that breeding needs to push more towards user predicts in general, which might require rethinking how breeding is structured where artists are concerned. If they were more rewarding, the site might not need to lean so heavily on site funded breeding artists for certain coins. If predicts could be more favored, artists might be more incentivised to work for users on the site, as right now the pay is understandably low. Caps being low encourages artists to work for the site, but it isn't really a sustainable model overall these days since there are fewer artists wanting to work for the site directly for various reasons. But working for individual users tends to be a lot more appealing. It's a complex issue overall since there are people who can't afford predicts, but glad to see some progress at least on the pendant discussion.
- Calankh
(#33835)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:44pm
though I guess making them predict only works for that too.
- [ cerpin ]
(#162)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:49pm
i think if they're made predict only then predict caps need to be changed or somehow reworked to be more rewarding for sure. there are lots of users who cannot make their own babies, and not many artists taking predict commissions outside of ppp from what i've seen? either way, i think predict only is the way to go, although the custom maker intrigues me!
- Aria ♥ Switch
(#1323)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:52pm
Give Pendants 5 charges and then they disappear.
- bd84
(#2783)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:04pm
Finding predict artists outside of PPP is nearly impossible, and insane expensive either way. It makes no sense to make them predict only when theres literally NOBODY doing the dang predicts in the first place unless you're able to do them yourself. Which excludes a large portion of people. You'll still have a huge backlog of breedings and upset users if they cant find and afford predict artists.
Adding regen time was what the site did last time they were nerfed. Apparently that's not a viable solution since they're back on the cutting board.
The entire point of a site breeding is that you only need to buy the coin, not also try to find an artist and pay an arm and leg for a single predict. Address this lack of artists before nerfing a very expensive item maybe?
You definitely need more options than this since most of these options create new problems. :(
- Kit
(#1241)
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Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:11pm
I really hope the predict-only option doesn’t win, otherwise I’ve been saving for a radioactive breeding pendant for nothing... my art skills aren’t exactly up to par.
Posted on: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:21pm
Tech (#5057)
Right now, they are not obtainable because of what they have been doing to breeding and the burden on the site.
While the staff is open to talking about it, once the poll is over and the breedings are wrangled better, at this time, they will remain unobtainable as priority is for fixing the issues at hand with breeding.