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Hello everyone! n__n You might know us and you may not! We used to only handle mostly background things around the site so we didn't poke our heads out very often. We are Kyu and Mauri and we're now your breeding admins. Our other responsibilities didn't change, so continue coming to us for all the non-breeding fun things we handle too!

We handle the following teams, their user predictions, their breeding mistakes, and everything else that involves these coins, and any respective pendants:

If you have any questions regarding breeding or any of the above coins and/or their teams/artists that we handle, please feel free to PM us. If you have any general questions in regards to how breeding works, please look at the knowledge base first prior to messaging us to see if any of those articles can answer your question(s). :D

Painted coins are handled exclusively by JAK (#15), and Platinum Breeding coins are handled exclusively by Vampi (#12221). The other various assortment of coins such as TFEs or Rusted Breeding coins are handled by a team that JAK (#15) runs, but questions regarding those can be sent to us (#1010) too.

We'll be working on fixing a lot of the knowledge base articles as we go, but for the meantime we have a pretty large news post for you!

First off, I wanted to let you know that the way breeding mistakes is handled will be changing. The old thread has been locked and our wonderful Iridien (#448) is going to be going through it, making rulings on what should and should not be fixed (she has been trained for quite some time, so you're in very good hands!), and will be working to get those fixes done and uploaded for you!

From here on out, please refer to this list for which thread you to post in for breeding mistakes.

- If you have a PMBC, or PLBC baby that has a problem, you'd post here.

- If you have a PBC baby that has a problem, you need to contact Vampi (#12221) via private message.

- If you have a baby from any other coin, please post in this new thread.

Do not repost babies that you had already posted in the old thread.

This new format (including how the fixes are done) will hopefully keep things running nice and smooth! Please be sure to read the rules in each thread before posting!

A quick note that color add-ons are not compatible with each other. So you can have one add-on per breeding that dictates the color theme or otherwise specifies colors on the babies.

In addition the Monochrome Rock has had a name change to the Neutral Nuggets! The use is still the same.

The Artist's Palette has been expanded to include BC, and HBC breedings.

As a note, this add-on tells the site artist to choose the colors for your breeding; please do not attach prompts or suggestions regarding colors or color palettes/themes to your breeding when using this add-on.
User predictions are no longer compatible with this add-on. If you submitted user predictions for a MBC or LBC breeding with an Artist's Palette, prior to this news post, your predictions will still be processed.

The Painted Vial, however, has been changed to allow user predictions and as such its price has been updated to 5 GP in the GP shop.

The KB article for the Artist Ticket and Crystal Egg Ticket has been updated!

From now on, please attach these add-ons to your breeding. If you're using the add-on for any of the combination of breeding coin / add-on that we handle (please refer to the article), you'll then need to PM us with the breeding ID and parent IDs of the breeding for the list of artists that are available to list.

If you sent an artist ticket previously to Frey (#90) for an active breeding please PM us with the following information:
- Breeding ID and parent IDs for the breeding it was to be used on.
- PM ID for the PM you sent Frey regarding the ticket you sent.

We will look into it and return your ticket so that you can attach it to your breeding.

In addition, the pay structure for the predict side of using an Artist Ticket or Crystal Egg Ticket has changed slightly. The old pay structure was actually a miscalculation. If you have not invoiced any breedings completed prior to this news post, you have 24 hours to do so to be paid under the old prices (which were 5 USD higher for the predict side). Please refer to this KB article to see how.

Three quick notes regarding Breeding Coins!

The first regards genus base edits on hybrid babies. A genus base edit would be something like taking the default Melo ears and adding them to a quetzal. BC breedings that result in hybrid babies will not involve any genus base edits unless a SCC parent was used (in which case the SCC can contribute "base" edits), or an edit potion or other edit % increase related add-on is used and the parents don't have enough other edits to satisfy the add-on edit % amount. Breedings that don't result in hybrids will work as normal.

The second note regards the hybrid embryo and the hybrid genetics kit.

The hybrid genetics kit lets you pick a single hybrid genus for all of the babies in the breeding to be. The babies in a single breeding cannot result in multiple different hybrid genera.

The hybrid embryo is a chance roll item and does not allow you to pick the genera. In the case of site artists, the site artist can pick the hybrid genera for the breeding and it can result in more than one genera resulting from a single breeding, but it doesn't have to. In the case of user predictions, you must PM us (#1010) to find out what genera your breeding has rolled, and only a single genera will result.

Finally for BC related news, the Breeding Coin and Breeding Coin Package have been removed from the GP shop! They were sitting there for longer than they should've been, but they'll be back during the next hybrid season!

Due to the change in administration for the MBC coin, the MBC Compatibility Thread has been closed and instead any breeding with over 5% edit difference between the parents will be refunded, not deleted. This, however, applies to all breedings currently in queue, regardless of whether or not the pairing was approved in the old thread. We apologize for this inconvenience but due to certain circumstances we had to make this decision.

Kyu and I will be going through the queue, as our time permits, to refund breedings that have over 5% edit difference between the parents. If you do not wish to wait that long, or would rather not risk it, you can post in the breeding refund thread and Eve will refund those as soon as possible so you can resubmit a safer pairing.

Currently the breedings that break the 5% rule being refunded is a temporary change, and is not permanent. I will make another news post in the future as to whether we will change the policy permanently or not, but as for now you can assume that until then your breeding will be refunded if it breaks the rule.

This next note is an unfortunate but necessary change. I promise you that we changed as much as we possibly could in the background and even introduced a new add-on (the vial) to limit how much we had to effect the user base, but even with those changes, we will have to increase the price of the metal breeding coin.

As of now, the metal breeding coin is restocking in the BP shop for 9,000,000 BP. This is far less than it would have had to be priced at had we not made those other changes, and we hope that we compromised reasonably with all parties involved to have a fair outcome.

Posted by Kyu & Mauri (#1010) on Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:10pm

Comments: 71

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Altheora (#30554)

Posted on: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:47pm

Much approval. <3

Sunny (#41814)

Posted on: Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:00pm

coolgirl66732 (#55379) - yes, you get 8.1 mil by haggling it down 10%. That's normal. 10% is .9 mil, so that's 9 mil minus .9 mil to make for 8.1 mil.

MourningStar(Hiatus) (#56068)

Posted on: Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:08pm

Kyu & Mauri (#1010)
What I don't get is how did the vial affect the cost of an MBC? But more importantly, for me anyway, will there be a new metal compatibility thread? it was really useful for pets that looked really close, but wasn't sure about, and it was always better to be safe than sorry. If there won't be anything to replace it, why can't the refund thing be permanent instead of deleting the breeding? since the price hike we would now be losing 8.1 million BP, or roughly 12GP instead of 3mil or so. That is a lot, especially if the differences are like the faded tiger melo- lots of subtle differences that you wouldn't necessarily notice, but keep it from being compatible.

Gone x2 (#550)

Posted on: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:36pm

*Calico* (#25718)

Painted bottles permitted with predicts, as seen here: https://www.aywas.com/forum/topic/2004480367/

Mori + Ferny + Yoo (#802)

Posted on: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:32pm

The thing is, the price for MBC + painted vial is the same as the price for a pmbc? Doesn't seem well thought out to me, tbh, but what do I know? Nevermind the additional cost of commissioning the predicts for people who can't make their own... -Yoo

Kita🦊 (#3988)

Posted on: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:27am

MourningStar (#56068)
I think the point of having them refunded now and not deleted is because the metal compatibility thread isn't up or functional right now. I highly doubt that staff would just be like "well we won't have a thread but if you misjudge something by 2% (so they're 7% different) we will delete your coin!" it doesn't seem like something they would do, especially without some kind of avenue to check whether something could be bred with that coin in the first place.
Whether or not the refunding is permanent probably depends on if a metal compatibility thread is possible and if someone is willing to run it and keep up with it (not to mention they would have to be trained in custom edit %, which also will take time)

-Kita

Cake (#2060)

Posted on: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:56am

Haru (#46917) - It means that if you're breeding a hybrid, edits on the babies will only come from actual edits to the parents. Things like the swirly mane on a phanto or the flowers on a vyne will not create similar edits on the hybrid baby.

If you use an addon that increases the edit amount AND the parents lack enough edits, you might get parent genus features as edits. The part with SCCs means that silver pets are treated as if everything on them is an edit that could possibly used for edits to your hybrid baby.

3 Dumb Sloths (#557)

Posted on: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:55am

The KB article doesn't mention where to send an invoice for the old predict price for Crystal Egg Ticket, where do I send the invoice to? There was a breeding predict I did with a CET + Edit Potion which was already uploaded and I'd like to have the pay I was expecting when I took the work on. ~UK

Haru (#46917)