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The GCC Deal is going strong. Starting now, any orders submitted (and ones that are expecting outstanding forms) are going to have a new field in them:
Species:
Keyword:
2-3 Colors:
Suggested Artists:
Please note that I cannot guarantee that a suggested artist will be assigned your design, but if you happen to see some artists opening up GCC blogs that you like, feel free to name them. There are about twenty five artists right now so obviously not everyone is opening up a blog!
Based on a suggestion from another user, feel free to use that new field to tell me who you DON'T want your design assigned to (don't worry, it'll be kept secret). That I can much more easily comply to and just skip over your form if I'm assigning for an artist you don't like. Be sure to specify if it's someone you like or don't like, though!
Also, I thought I should mention that the document organizing all of the GCC design purchases is linked to each individual form PM thread, so you can update/change your design request form (including suggesting/denying artists) as much as you want by responding to the original message, until the point where it gets assigned.
Posted by JAK
(#15) on Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:30pm
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:47pm
I agree completely, please don't let anyone reuse our PSDs, Slash. D: My understanding was that the PSD was for breeding purposes only. I'm making a custom, not a template for profit. ;n;
- Viri - See Profile
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:56pm
Thanks, Slash. I will do that then. :)
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@Aqua: That's why I wanted to clarify what was what really. :) I dont mind asking the artists but I wanted to know where I stood first if I could (I'm not saying I would, I just want to know what's possible as I've already seen a bunch of rules put up by different artists with different rules). I'm pretty sure it's just similar to regular designs except that we're automatically allowed to edit and/or recolour if we want to, and resell the design once by default. But some artists are quite happy with you making a copy, or breeding the edits to everything, and some aren't. You just follow the artists rules in that case. ie. off the top of my head, Ryou will usually say that either the .psd (of a unique) is yours and you do what you want with it (even allowing recolours to be made within reason, or some that she feels are special she'll say she'd rather nothing too drastic happen to them and they're not bred too much. I figure that's the same here from what Slash has said? :) - V
- JAK
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:57pm
Nnngh, the problem is that this service is the same as PBCs and SCCs hired by the site. The user is supposed to be able to do what they want with the art they get from the site. If this is a really big problem for you then perhaps this job isn't for you...? I'd really hate to lose you guys though. I just don't like the idea of art bought by the site being restricted.
- Graymare
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:02pm
I ... can see both sides of this. Understandably people want the freedom to do with a design as they wish, but artists aren't going to stay hired if their work is being sold out for massive profits by users. It devalues their own ability to earn GP income with design sales. Commissions generally don't work like that - you're buying a once off design, not a set of edits to merchandise.
- JAK
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:08pm
Yeah, I see both sides to it as well, but consider this: the user doesn't have any control over what artist they get, and thus no control over agreeing/not agreeing to what they want to do with the art. I suppose they could state they don't want an artist who controls their PSDs, but not all artists would state it? Or the information isn't easily accessible? Or perhaps an artist would take issue with it later? A user shouldn't be forced to not be able to do with their design what they want simply because they were assigned to an artist who wants to control their work. I'd much rather just have an artist team that doesn't mind conforming to the idea that site-bought artwork has no restrictions.
- Serith
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:10pm
I hope that people won't use my designs to resell more than once ...but I'm not about to make a rule out of it and I don't mind if is allowed by the site. It is more of a simple request - definitely won't make a fuss if they go for it, anyways.
- JAK
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:13pm
You could, of course, ask the people who receive your designs to agree to respect your wishes, and if they do agree, it's enforceable. It's just not enforceable to force those wishes upon them since there was no prior agreement, if you know what I mean?
- HIATUS [See Profile]
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:13pm
Right, and I'm just gonna address the part about the PBCs/SCCs? The pay for those is (while still not quite even minimum wage for most artists), a lot more fair, considering how much time gets put into gold designs and stuff :C And also they're baby making things OR specific species commissions? And not just "a free design". Sooo. If I get paid enough to keep me happy and apathetic (like with PBCs), I don't care what's done with the designs obviously-- and also I took the job knowing that this would happen. But with the GCC team... v_v idk, I'm sure you'll still have artists who need the money and will stay! But that's just not me :s
- Viri - See Profile
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Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:14pm
*hides because she only wanted to know and hasn't even had a design yet XD* Like I said in my last post...I am happy to follow the artists ruling. This wasn't me saying I think we should have the rights, I was just wondering where the boundaries were. Sorry! :O
Ok.....What about a middle ground as I can see it from both sides too (Technically it belongs to Aywas, and yes we dont really know what we're getting but noone wants to alienate the artists either)? What if the user had to give a pre-determined amount to the artist each time they sold a .psd copy (with a different amount for selling premades)? Would that work? Idk but I thought I'd suggest it. Also, maybe all the artists could tell you officially their stance, Slash, as you mentioned and we would say on the form if we'd prefer it or not. That way, only you would know who would and wouldn't allow it? <3 - V
Posted on: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:33pm
Uuuugh I. Uh. Slash? I know for a fact I'm not the only artist who would be severely uncomfortable if people were allowed to sell our PSDs from this thing like that. I've been under the impression that we make a design, they get the design, they can take or leave (or resell) the design, but it's still just... that design. Can you maybe make a post about clarifying this? Or at least requiring that users ask the artist first and are obligated to go by the artist's decision to let them sell a bunch or not?