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As part of our addressing Breedings and the hurdles that are preventing us from making headway on clearing out the queues, the topic of the Drinking Game came up.
As you may or may not be aware, all the pets on the score board at the end of the month will be randomly paired together and bred. This means every month 10 new breedings are generated - and while that doesn't sound like much, when you have trouble finding artists who are interested in the type of breeding mix the game generates, the queue piles up. Many long standing members will know that getting the drinking game breedings completed has been an uphill struggle from the game's inception.
As such we have come to the hard decision to make changes to the game - but as this is a big change, we want to share the discussion and the decision with you. After a lot of conversations we have narrowed it down to two possibilities that we feel offer the best results.
Option One
The queue continues to generate breedings, but from June onwards they will now go to the Scribble queue.
While you may pause and question if diverting from one queue to another is a smart idea, the Scribble queue is at a low enough level that injecting 10 new breedings a month would not be unwieldy, especially as the team has been taking on new members recently.
Pets created from the Drinking Game would be eligible as Silver Species Founders without the permission of the other pet owner's permission - so you would need to be certain you are happy to share your pet's markings and edits, with potentially more than one other custom.
Option Two
The queue gets a unique unbreedable genus and from June onwards the top 10 will receive a custom maker.
1-3 = Gold Custom Maker
4-6 = Blue Custom Maker
7-10 = Bronze Custom Maker
The genus would be unbreedable to ensure the rarity of the genus is not compromised. The maker would not be account bound, so it would be possible to sell, trade, or gift the custom maker as the winning user wishes.
Details of the genus are not available at this time, as we would likely try to poll what type of creature people would be interested in.
Bonus Question
As it stands, users may enter as many pets as they wish to into the Drinking Game. In theory, should you have enough alcohol, one person could hold all top 10 spots (though I feel it is important to note that this has never happened!)
Do you believe that the Drinking Game should limit each account to enter only one pet, opposed to entering as many as you wish?
We hope to hear your thoughts about these changes, and especially the bonus question.
Option Two: The queue gets a unique unbreedable genus and the top 10 will receive a custom maker
Posted by Eve
(#2775) on Tue May 26, 2020 12:58pm
- Minagi 🍬
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:03pm
I'm also seeing a lot of negative reactions to the idea of having an unbreedable species. Maybe this could be circumvented by instead applying xaoc rules to it? So it can't breed with itself, and it has a really low chance of rolling that offspring, but otherwise it's fair game? It would make #2 a lot more appealing for those who aren't fond of the scribble aesthetic
- Faerie Lady
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:04pm
Im here for either, but Scribbles would be fun!
i think one entry per drinking game is okay, I know people use it to get more SP each month. Heck even I did that. I had like 4 or 5 pets in it I think one month when I was trying to get the RBP. I didn't feel good about it and I never did it again. Frankly I don't see why we would cut it down to 1, but I wouldn't be mad about it.
- Jools
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:14pm
Archenitesky (#70057) There is also the gourmet eating game, though it's had super few entries whenever I look at it, and maybe that could be updated too?
- August
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:22pm
Wow, I never even thought about how much strain the drinking game must put on the teams! This is a great change, and folks won't be happy either way, but you gotta consider: Do you really want to keep an old unsustainable feature around that is part of what's holding Aywas back from some new cool content? I have no doubts the drinking game was a huge part of Aywas for some folks and it would hurt for it to be changed. I think we should try to embrace these essential changes because it's obviously not an easy choice for anyone involved, staff least of all.
I do like the custom maker idea, but I feel like 10 makers being given away per month would quickly devalue them. I'm not really sure what could work instead- maybe only the top 3 get the custom makers, or perhaps something like the jeweled sets where a new scc/pet/etc breed is made for each month. still an added need for art but maybe less strenuous than 10 new breedings per month.
or maybe even something where the #1(or top 3?) get a slightly fancier breeding queue(not as intensive as the current drinking game) and the rest just got too drunk- so they became scribbles(or, if we're getting really crazy, a special new type of breeding queue that's like scribbles but, well, drunk. silly and super low effort but a fun reward perhaps?)
just spitballing some random ideas. happy to support whatever decision is made here :)
- Quit
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:51pm
Suea Peek (#10714) - Eggnogs only give 30% edits, but its really just the random aspect of the coin that can scare away artists.
- Calankh
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 7:59pm
just as a math note, 10 placements being paired results in 5 breedings per month, not 10. Though suppose that each owner gets a resulting pet, but I'm assuming they're on the same lines so it's just different colorations?
- Quit
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 8:14pm
Calankh (#33835) - Its 10 different breedings. Each pet gets 1 breeding assigned to it. Theyre just paired up together. Not the same base.
- Quit
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 8:15pm
I think you should allow people, if they mark it as predicts(or a ppp perk?), to do it in the current way as it doesn't strain the team if it's not part of the que. If they go into the scribble que is it a unique baby per or will it be like normal scribbles and one color would go to one person and the other to the other user?
- Quit
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Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 8:23pm
I also don't agree with limiting users on number of enteries. Some people like to enter the same two pets, or even one constantly. Giving them a cooldown time or saying 'sorry only one per' would be a little irritating to those who went out of there way and bought either many fridges, got GP for them, or spend ages stocking alc up.
Those who argue what about new players, without any regening stuff it's still rather easy to rank as long as you actually go and check the stores for them vs buying from players. As long as you at least half try you can almost always come in 6th or 7th just stocking up on cheap alc. Adventuring for anywhere from 10-15 minutes a day or days you want to stock easily covers you for that day.
Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 6:51pm
In regards to the bonus question, I don't really think it's necessary to block people out of submitting multiple pets. I never see people abusing it to hog all the slots, and if they choose to spend their booze that way, it just means they'll miss out on the next month