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Drinking Game: Discussion and Poll

Site Update

As part of our addressing Breedings and the hurdles that are preventing us from making headway on clearing out the queues, the topic of the Drinking Game came up.

As you may or may not be aware, all the pets on the score board at the end of the month will be randomly paired together and bred. This means every month 10 new breedings are generated - and while that doesn't sound like much, when you have trouble finding artists who are interested in the type of breeding mix the game generates, the queue piles up. Many long standing members will know that getting the drinking game breedings completed has been an uphill struggle from the game's inception.

As such we have come to the hard decision to make changes to the game - but as this is a big change, we want to share the discussion and the decision with you. After a lot of conversations we have narrowed it down to two possibilities that we feel offer the best results.

Option One
The queue continues to generate breedings, but from June onwards they will now go to the Scribble queue.

While you may pause and question if diverting from one queue to another is a smart idea, the Scribble queue is at a low enough level that injecting 10 new breedings a month would not be unwieldy, especially as the team has been taking on new members recently.

Pets created from the Drinking Game would be eligible as Silver Species Founders without the permission of the other pet owner's permission - so you would need to be certain you are happy to share your pet's markings and edits, with potentially more than one other custom.

Option Two
The queue gets a unique unbreedable genus and from June onwards the top 10 will receive a custom maker.

1-3 = Gold Custom Maker
4-6 = Blue Custom Maker
7-10 = Bronze Custom Maker

The genus would be unbreedable to ensure the rarity of the genus is not compromised. The maker would not be account bound, so it would be possible to sell, trade, or gift the custom maker as the winning user wishes.

Details of the genus are not available at this time, as we would likely try to poll what type of creature people would be interested in.

Bonus Question
As it stands, users may enter as many pets as they wish to into the Drinking Game. In theory, should you have enough alcohol, one person could hold all top 10 spots (though I feel it is important to note that this has never happened!)

Do you believe that the Drinking Game should limit each account to enter only one pet, opposed to entering as many as you wish?

We hope to hear your thoughts about these changes, and especially the bonus question.

Option One: The queue continues to generate breedings, but from June onwards they will now go to the Scribble queue
60% [ 196 ]

Option Two: The queue gets a unique unbreedable genus and the top 10 will receive a custom maker
40% [ 132 ]

Posted by Eve (#2775) on Tue May 26, 2020 12:58pm

Comments: 78

Kalid (#49104)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:07pm

Part of the appeal of the drinking game was being able to breed previously unbreedable pets. I think moving them to the scribble queue would preserve this.
However, if the item made a silver species instead of a genus I would be in support of it as an alternative, especially since it would not put ongoing strain on the queues. Alot of users make a goal of having a custom of each genus and an unbreedable genus would be unobtainable for most users; either you'd need to get lucky with a ME/GhChoc or would need to buy off a winner. And most of the regular drinking game winners are not needing in funds or items.

DelennDax7 (#67503)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:08pm

I honestly don't understand what Option 2 is saying. I get the part about each one gets a custom maker - Oh wait, do you mean that the top 10 players will receive a Custom maker to that unique Genus, but they won't be able to breed their custom pet they make with it?

♑ Voluspa ♑ (#67552)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:08pm

With option 2, shouldn't there be a metal maker as well?

I don't have many opinions as entering the drinking game is on my "to do someday, eventually, list", but personally I always prefer custom makers over breedings... As for number of entries.... If you managed to get all top ten one month, you are pretty unlikely to have much alcohol left the next.... But that said, perhaps some limit (not necessarily 1) or maybe if you make top 10 one month, you can't enter at all the next? Just thinking out loud, here :p

♑ Voluspa ♑ (#67552)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:10pm

DelennDax7 (#67503) yup that's what they mean :) And also that you wouldn't be able to breed it even with others of the same genus.

Kalid (#49104)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:14pm

It's to preserve the rarity of the genus but im not sure why they decided on that instead of having them only breedable with a special breeding addon

♑ Voluspa ♑ (#67552)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:14pm

Kalid (#49104) - if it made a silver species, "the item" would be tiny silver potions and silver potions I guess? Or silver crystals... Rather than a new custom maker.

As for the maker being hard to get.... it'd probably be a lot easier than the Xaoc.... so, for people who want at least one of each genus, I'm not sure it would be such a hurdle? Even if the winners don't need money they might still gift or sell the custom makers to other users if they get more than they need.... That's what I think anyway. :)

Kalid (#49104)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:18pm

♑ Voluspa ♑ (#67552) it'd be more like a xentori flute- a custom maker specific to that line set, but still a silver species.

DelennDax7 (#67503)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:22pm

♑ Voluspa ♑ (#67552) Yeah, after I submitted that question, I realize that that MUST be what it's saying.

I've never done the game, but I have alcohol stored up for when/if I ever do enter. I was shocked when I first heard that you could enter as many pets as you wanted to. That seems unfair to me. But, take that opinion with a grain of salt. ;-) I personally will never enter the game if the Scribble idea wins! I don't see the appeal - but, take that with a grain of salt too. I love custom-makers!

But, I almost think, just do away with the game altogether. *hides*

I'm not sure why you'd make them unbreedable, you're constantly adding pets to the site, and plenty with their own custom makers. Instead of making a new Genus, maybe give out custom makers that are more difficult to obtain for already existing Genuses?

«Gordon» (#162)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:24pm

making a comment first and foremost to say i don't believe there should be limitations on placing multiple times within the drinking contest. placing is already really easy tbh, i got in recently and forgot to open my regenerating items/buy alcohol almost every day of the month. with the drinking game not really being as competitive now as it was before, a limitation doesn't seem necessary imo.

also gonna chime in that i'm really glad to see the site stepping in to try and clean up the queues some! i highly appreciate this, it rules, and i hope to see it moved to the scribble queue because scribbles are adorable and i think that would be a nice change that still keeps the spirit of the game in tact :-)

(also the second option doesn't appeal to me specifically because of the idea of having a custom that could never be bred, even through the drinking game. i would give it more consideration if it was possible to breed them, but as of now there's no contest between answers for me personally!)


Eve (#2775)

Posted on: Tue May 26, 2020 1:34pm

A few clarifications about Option Two <3

1. It wouldn't be an SCC. It would be a proper site genus. We know this will make it accessible via Mystery Eggs, but the incidents of it appearing are likely to be few enough that it won't impact the exclusivity of the species. The genus would still be unbreedable if a Mystery Egg (or Future Custom) were used.

2a. Metal pets can be made with any custom making item, you just have to put a note that you know that it's under-edited for the item.

2b. The item would be 0-30% in the description so people can see it covers metal and bronze.

3. Consider the Orbweaver: It was meant to be a rare gift from us to artists. It was then bred so heavily that it's almost as common as Melos. It lost all exclusivity, and therefore lost worth. This also happened with the Special Delivery lines. Making this genus unbreedable will combat that. Making them breedable in any manner would be liable to make the genus too accessible and not worth the work to get onto the scoreboard.