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Hello everyone! :D <3
Mauri here - I just wanted to give you a couple of updates, fixes, and reminders!
Due to some unfortunate circumstances I've been homeless and couch hopping for a few weeks now. This also means that my access to my computer and/or internet has been very sporadic. Thankfully my living situation finally sorted itself out and come mid-July I'll have a place to stay! In the meantime, I know that I've been very very slow to respond to PMs recently and for that I apologize. I've been prioritizing my online-time to keep lists moving and the breeding system running in the background as best as I can, so my inbox has fell to the side a bit.
Onto the reminders!
Please remember to check your HBC and HBP breedings and check the "will have predicts" box if you intend to submit a prediction for it. We are catching up on that queue and as we hit more recent breedings we will be assuming that any breeding over a month old that does not have that box checked is not intending to have predicts submitted. So be sure to check it if you want to submit any!
If you submit a breeding with a breeding add-on that requires notes/user input (example being the Hybrid Genetics Kit) and your breeding does not have the required notes at the time of assignment, your entire breeding will be refunded. Be sure to put all of the necessary notes in for your breedings!
Just a reminder that I am basically always looking to hire new artists for GP contracts! Even if I don't need artists for a certain coin at one point in time, I keep the applications on file for future reference when I do need them. Currently I actively need MBC, BC, HBC, EBC, and LBC artists. Perhaps some RBC artists too! Feel free to submit an application; they can be found here.
In addition, Miksa has a quick reminder for you!
Hello everyone! I wanted to give you a bit of a heads up that I'll be changing the stock in my shop come July 5th! So if you want to own any of these pretty pets I currently am selling, you should buy them before July 5th. On July 5th they will be permanently retired and new pets will take their place!
And now for some updates!
The poll has spoken! The Greater Fertility Potion is now stocking in the BP Shop for 18,000,000 BP.
The Speedy Breeding Ticket has reverted back to its original use after being temporarily retired. It can now be used to skip the queue for many types of breedings! This item does not let you pick an artist, rather it just makes your breeding *speedy*. :3
As such, it will now stock in the USD shop for 35.00 USD.
The Painted Breeding Mistakes thread is now being handled by Kita (#3988)! The old thread is being gone through and will be finished soon.
The Breeding Mistakes 4.0 thread will also be changing hands soon also - the replacement is in the process of being trained! n_n
- Mauri
Posted by Kyu & Mauri
(#1010) on Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:56pm
- Lore
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Posted on: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:39pm
That's what I thought, though I'm confused even more because my predicts have been in for more than a month :/ I have no idea where to take this then. . Thanks for the help!
- Dar & Zel
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Posted on: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:46pm
Lore (#33801)
Ah, the way you said it made it sound like you were expecting site artist breeding lists. Hahahh. Apologies for misreading that!
I would assume that there's just a backlog in predicts. Predicts has sometimes been pretty quick, but just as often there's a wait of a month or more. It's another thing that aywas has a hard time staying consistent on.
I'm sure your predicts will come through eventually though! I'll have my fingers crossed for ya that it's sooner rather than not. ^_^
- Eve
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Posted on: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:50pm
I wasn't trying to be condescending and I'm sorry you feel that I was. Staff aren't allowed to be involved in their own user issues (as this would fall under) so I only have what I've been told as a user, and what I'd seen/heard publicly, so if I'm wrong about their being active, then I do apologise - but I was under the impression they had been contacted very early in the year when they were still accessing the site regularly and would have been able to respond, even just to say they are unable to do the fix. My only problem then is that I know if an artist has a fix they cannot do for reasons out of their control that there are procedures in place to ensure the fix is done in any case. For there to be no fix, and for it to get to even a temporary ban, then any reason to not do the fix can't have been disclosed? That's why if truth told I'm confused about how it went down - it didn't have to happen this way at all, and I know from a staff standpoint it's the absolute last resort.
- Lore
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18am
Thank you so much #43! ^^
- Dar & Zel
(#43)
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:45am
Eve (#2775)
My knowledge of the situation comes from the artist. From what I was told, in the -months- between when the turned the list in and then got the ruling that it was deemed eligible for a breeding fix, their RL circumstances regarding work had changed. And at that point, they were only finishing up what they had already taken on in the small blips of time they were able to put aside for aywas. As far as I know, they weren't taking on new work at the time they were notified of the need for a fix.
They've been frequently working 60+ hour weeks, and if memory serves, they also have a child to take care of. As such, they simply don't have time to do aywas work in general, not just fixes. The most they'd been being able to be on aywas at all was 5-10 minute chunks sneaked in during slow periods at work. That being the case, there were messages that weren't responded to quickly because time just wasn't there. I haven't seen -any- artwork from them in quite a long time.
They aren't arguing with support about the ban after the fact as they were planning on tying up loose ends and then leaving the site when they got another opportunity to do so, which sadly, they didn't get until after the permanent ban was put into place.
It might be the last resort, but it seems to me that communication on staff end wasn't clear about what options the artist had since they were unable to complete a fix due to RL circumstances. As far as they knew, it was make the fix or suffer the consequences (and if that's all you know, then why assume that explaining would make any difference). From what I was told, no one ever told them that there were other options if they were unable to make a fix.
And this whole shebang would never have happened if the mistakes thread operated smoothly at got rulings/responses out in say, a week or two of offspring being posted.
As someone who's both an artist of a posted offspring and have posted offspring I've received, the wait is ridiculous. I'm still waiting on a ruling about an eggnog offspring I made that was posted in February; I'm sure it's understandable that in the span of time since Feb. 2nd and now (nearly five months!) things could have changed to the point where a fix wasn't feasible to schedule in (thankfully this isn't the case for me, but clearly it has been for other artists).
Apologies for the long post, never intended it to get so wordy.
- Eve
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:59am
The pet was assigned 181 days ago, and hatched 173 days ago (I always hatch my eggs immediately), meaning I posted the fix on the day I hatched it. It was accepted as a mistake 17 days later. Just checking their posts you can see they were frequently active in the weeks around the date they would have been contacted. Could they have missed the PM? Absolutely, I'm not doubting that but I know the numbers and dates by heart because I feel like crud that my pet caused all this to happen, even if it was never my intent (or even expectable) that it would go the way it did, and I had for weeks tried to figure if there was anything I could have done for things to not turn out how they did. Should I have submitted it sooner? That's literally not possible. Should I have contacted them myself? By your knowledge of the situation I now know that had I done so it wouldn't have gotten a response either. It's a cruddy situation, and no doubt the timing was bad for this one particular artist - but they were made aware of the problem less than a month after it was assigned to them, not months later. Could turn around be faster? We'll find out - it all depends on volume, and considering there were a lot of problems with a lot of eggnog babies at that time of year, I don't feel that for the time the wait was unreasonable.
- Eve
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:04am
Also no worries about it being wordy - I'm half asleep and missing half the things I want to say, and pressing the wrong buttons before I'm done -_- I don't disagree that right now things are behind and we need to fix that (and the right steps have been taken to do that), but accommodations have always been made for people genuinely unable to make the fixes themselves so there's never a need for an artist to worry or fear that if they are called up on something done within the last few months and can't fix it now, that something would happen to happen to them. Like I said, that's why I'm confused and sad at how this all went about.
- Broken
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:25am
So if we have a PLBC breeding mistake and the new thread hasn't been started yet will be given leeway to still submit them?
- Dar & Zel
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Posted on: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:35am
Eve (#2775)
I was under the impression that it had been longer. Perhaps may have been longer between the ruling and when the artist was told?
I'm not sure how quickly the accompanying message for the artist goes out (one would assume same time, but I'm hesitant to assume anything on this site anymore). However, based on what I've been told, I think I'd be apt to believe the message ended up missed or buried hence leading to the months between, it depends on how soon a follow up might have been sent after the initial message.
And I definitely don't think the blame for this can be pegged on you. It's more back-end that I'm concerned about. As the user posting the offspring, you have little to no control after it gets put up.
See, that bit about how there's 'always been accommodations for artists unable to make fixes' . . . I've been on official breeding teams and have -never- heard that before. Not once. I've been under the same impression my friend was, that with the change, we're -required- to make fixes and that's it, the end, no alternatives. They even stated to me that they would have been willing to return what they were paid for that offspring since they couldn't fix it, but that they were never given any other options/alternatives other than 'fix it.'
But beyond that, a permanent ban for an artist over ONE breeding fix? That seems like a drastic over-reaction. I'm not saying it should be okay over and over, but it feels like an official strike, or a temp ban on a first offense would be more appropriate. Not chewing on the issue like a dog with a bone until the artist ends up permanently banned. It's excessive and not in line with the severity of the infraction.
Posted on: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:21pm
Lore (#33801)
Half a lesser breeding coins are predict only, so there's no site artists to work on lists on them. Users have to make their own offspring for that coin. ^_^