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Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:58pm

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Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:03pm

Okay my mobile messed up my first comment . if I have to wait for more then 1 month for the predict artist to deliver. How can I avoid the breeding being assigned?

Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:19pm

Ivory (returns LL) (#43812) - If you check the "will have predicts" option then you can wait as long as you want until your predicts are uploaded. :)

Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:41pm

When will we see adjustments on the painted USD caps???? It's so frustrating because A. there aren't paintbrushes for those values anymore, so it's very difficult to pay them in PBs. (The lowest PB value is $4.50, so it would make sense to at least raise the PLBC to 4.50 so it's an easy conversion for metal brushes...) And, B., if you want to use the commissions feature... last time I checked with a mod, artists weren't allowed to charge over $4 for PLBC predicts through the panel, even though the artists net less than that due to the 15% fee enforced by the commission panel?? You couldn't even charge $4.60 or something so you netted the (already low) ceiling value after paying your fees. Hence, why it makes sense IMO to raise at least the PLBC ceiling to at least $4.50 to make it easier on artists + users. Not sure what I would even suggest for the PMBC, since there's no way it's ever going to line up with paintbrushes, I guess it should also just be increased to account for the commission panel percentage....

I also want to follow up with a mod sometime, that I've seen people use the mdt queues for predicts? How are the ceilings enforced there, if you add a tip through the feature itself???

Idk I guess I'm glad the predict ceilings are being considered at all, even if they are still not high enough.

Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:50pm

Yeah curious about this too as waiting on ma friend's predict but that's what I used mine for. If I'm now unbale to use the MDT design for the predict it means I'm out a MDT as TSP isn't in the cards for me for a LONG time. I'm guessing it might be different due to the MDT team being site paid but IDK.

Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:47pm

why can't there be a standard of 1 dollar = 2 GP? Or whatever the PBC dictated as the standard. As the PBC was priced in GP according to what the going GP to dollar rate was.. or that was what was stated in a news post or something iirc.. so it would probably make sense for the site to use that ration all the time maybe? until it changes again to the point that if the PBC were in the GP shop and USD shop again, it would have changed the GP shop price in a legit manner. Just sayin' cause it seems that different coins have different values of GP per dollar and that is kind of weird when a dollar will always be a dollar and a GP will always be a GP. Plus, it always favors the dollar. I'm fairly easy to please and can make my own (p)mbc/(p)lbc predicts if need be, but idk, I can see why people are complaining. if just for this tiny bit. Making 1 dollar = 2 GP a standard wouldn't change things that much. And even doing that, many will still prefer USD probably. So I doubt it would cause any huge changes. The GP ceilings for breeding coins don't seem to take into account edit percantages either. Is there a reason for that? I mean I get protecting the site artists and all, but I just think things should at least make sense and not seem so arbitrary. I mean.. It is hard to see multiple differences in GP to dollar ratio as anything but arbitrary. At least that is my opinion. And again, this would probably never apply to me so I don't really have horses in this race so to speak... I just get my feathers (if I had any) in a lil bit of a ruffle when things don't make sense (and when it goes in a direction that seems to cause many discontent. If people were more thrilled sounding I'd probably have said nothing as it wouldn't matter to me if people seemed more..idk ecstatic...Then again.. People might have just been like omg change and jumped to unrealistic conclusions just to get dissapointed... But I at least the disgruntled responses in at least /some/ , not necessarily all, respects seem founded. /shrug)

Posted on: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:47pm

i shoulda made that into paragraphs, sorry!

Posted on: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:20am

Here's how I see it, generally speaking, as someone who used to be a customs artist for the site, and why people are deciding to probably do USD only:


GP isn't worth it, GP won't pay the bills, and the GP to USD ratio is pretty laughable at best, especially to an artist. Why make predicts for at MAX 15 GP, when you can do premades and have no restrictions? Why get 15GP for a uniquely edited hybrid, when you can make 50+ GP on a premade if you are good enough, and have a set?


It's honest to Ra not worth the time or effort put in for the amount of money the ceiling stops at, especially with the quality people /expect/ from artists. They expect *top* quality(Which is fair, I understand wanting the best babies you can get), but for rock bottom prices, which isn't fair to an artist.


Even the USD ceiling isn't fantastic, if an artist spends over three hours on one baby, they are already starting to lose money. Non-artists seem to assume art isn't hard or artists can pump out art so easily, and it's not that easy. It can be a lot of work for little to no reward. Especially when they can make /more/ money /not/ doing predicts(which have to be unique and can't be reused!), by just making premades and sometimes reusing bases.


It is a delicate balancing act, and honestly, it's good that artists are starting to realize that their art and effort are worth more than that. Also, keep in mind, the money that a user spends on a Breeding Coin is /not the artist's fault/, and it doesn't mean an artist should deserve less, because you spent $60 on the site, but the artist sees none of that. So that argument holds no grounds to me. The benefit of predicts is getting the baby /you want/ instead of leaving it up to a site artist's interpretation(then getting annoyed when they don't know exactly what you wanted), and if the baby you want is that important to you, then the artist does deserve what they feel they deserve.


You pay for what you want and the convenience of getting what you want. Predict artists aren't in cahoots with the site, they don't see /any/ of the money spent on breeding coins, so don't fault them for what you had to spend on them because it's not exactly fair to them.

Posted on: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:08am

So does this mean PMBC predicts are not available to be done through the MDT feature? Since the lowest MDT gives the artist $4? That is really disappointing, because as other people have pointed out there's no way to do it in PBs either and with the commission panel fees there is basically no way to do PMBC predicts. :/

Posted on: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:55pm

My two cents about a couple things sorry it's super long....

Lyf ♥ LLs (#57836)
IDK they never replied and if I had to guess I'm going to try anyway because I got mine done before this and had no reason to believe otherwise.

Since it's a site function and you have to use a separate item and system entirely I hope this isn't the cae. Predict celings are at least in part to protect site artist. Well MDT are site artists of site feature so...

By this point your best bet is to probably message a mod and see about that though tbh.

If not and mine doesn't go through IDK what I'm going to do since mine should have been in the queue like over a week ago I think but since it's a split with painted twins have to wait on another predict. -shrugs-


DWN-∞ (#222)
As far as predicts not being worth it with a low cap, maybe not. The site can only afford to pay the people in it's employees so much and as was pointed out freelance work being put out for breeding was even shot down due to the site people likely being stuck with the crappy breeds no one else want to do with the site artists still standing to make more money. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm saying it is what it is and sadly if they raise the cap too much there's going to be a lot of people who can't aford predicts with a huge wait because predicts are worth more than working for the site. Yes, it's not the predict people's fault that someone spent $60 and I don't think that's what they're trying to say. I think most people are saying they can't aford that. Which guys, I mean not to be a jerk though but if you can't afford the coin and predicts you gotta sit in the queue with the rest of us that can't get predicts that's the way it goes sorry. But at the same time I don't think anyone is saying it's their fault or anything.

The BC figure, at least the bottom one, is super close to the last figure I saw given for the team. Yes more direct contact to the person breeding. But also with the ability to take on one at a time and have more time to do them. So IDK honestly.

And yeah I do know that art takes a lot of work, I'm still trying to learn digital art after 12+ years pencil/pen paper. ((It feels weird it just feels so weird I can't dig in for hours on a tablet or mouse/trackpad as well as pen and paper and IDK why.)) Honestly sometimes I think teams were meant more for people who couldn't make money another way since something being better than nothing and still being sustainable. ((Not saying these people deserve less either but shoot if I've considered it because something is better than nothing. I just can't deal with people. 3:))